Re: Mind's Eye Re: Aliens, Slavery and Resources

Allan, just download the update for the milk and honey version and get
over with it! Always the same complaints with you techy guys!

On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 8:02 AM, Allan H <allanh1946@gmail.com> wrote:
> has the supreme court of Rigsy ruled that cookies must be supplied on demand??
> Allan
>
> On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 3:39 AM, rigsy03 <rigsy03@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> You are all very sweet to wish me well but I am safely nestled in
>> America's belly. I will join your collective wishes for the east coast
>> as it is ruinous and very sad to track.//Catching up: the fall lawn
>> clean-up and cut backs were the best ever- hope the snow service is
>> the same later on. My daughter has scared me with visions of a sugar
>> plum Christmas she remembers from her childhood forgetting that she
>> has abscounded with most all the decorations- even to the cookie
>> cutters! We'll work it out. Have been getting bedrooms and kitchen in
>> gear for the holidays so there isn't a last minute rush/heart attack.
>> This house is a riot- but that is another topic. A couple invitations-
>> will go to one- a baby shower. Exit the momastery! And yes, Gabby, was
>> thinking of the warm sun during these cloudy days and cold nights. Saw
>> myself sitting in the desert- very strange. Love to all- be safe.
>>
>> On Oct 30, 7:53 pm, Molly <mollyb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Yes, hope all is well for you rigsy. In Detroit we have Sandy's wind and a
>>> bit of rain and sleet, but nothing like NYC. thinking of you with love.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, October 30, 2012 5:20:35 PM UTC-4, Allan Heretic wrote:
>>>
>>> > sounds like you are really going to be needing your snow guy Rigsy,,
>>> > heard WV had over a meter of snow fall that must be a bitch.
>>> > Allan
>>>
>>> > On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 8:56 PM, gabbydott <gabb...@gmail.com<javascript:>>
>>> > wrote:
>>> > > You see, Neil, that's exactly why I thought we have Rigsy write the
>>> > > abstract and make her come out of the kitchen after her snow guy had
>>> > > done his job. You have spoiled it all now!
>>>
>>> > > On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 11:25 AM, archytas <nwt...@gmail.com<javascript:>>
>>> > wrote:
>>> > >> I've just become a paradigm case of Bill's "bored traveller" - long
>>> > >> weekend with an American friend in Rome looking at art entailing the
>>> > >> Vatican (which didn't spontaneously combust) - Bernini etc. There was
>>> > >> a Hombeck on candle-light which will stick forever. I got the
>>> > >> impression Bernini could do something in static stone that would give
>>> > >> the impression of a Jimmy Johnstone dribble (he was the best ever at
>>> > >> this spectacle, if not the most effective player in modern soccer
>>> > >> terms). Couldn't get a coffee in the city that never sleeps at 3 a.m.
>>> > >> and ended-up in a Mcdonalds. The place is a dreadful tourist rip-off
>>> > >> and a week would have bankrupted us. Flight home was delayed by an
>>> > >> outbreak of Italian indolence and refusal to drive the bus to the
>>> > >> plane. Airport full of disgruntled Americans delayed by Sandy.
>>> > >> Greece and Rome descend from slave economies and attitudes that work
>>> > >> scars the soul.
>>> > >> There was so much to see and it was so pleasant to walk I came home
>>> > >> hobbling on a blister.
>>>
>>> > >> Much biology is based on the economics of energy - we always seem to
>>> > >> want explanation in terms of why an organism would expend the energy
>>> > >> required to maintain an organ and so on. Our brains and even memory
>>> > >> need justification in energy terms. Much of my own interest in the
>>> > >> subject concerns desire to overcome its predestination - which these
>>> > >> days would be talked about through the notion of co-evolution and its
>>> > >> 'arms races'. My own guess for a long time has been we need to
>>> > >> organise work differently - I favour a federal Europe (World) of a
>>> > >> free table with work as a shared obligation - but one always finds
>>> > >> such opinion has been held before - one example here would be the
>>> > >> Strasser brothers who organised the Nazis when Hitler came out of
>>> > >> jail. Politically I tend to think we are stuck in the hands of a
>>> > >> rentier class much as in the inter-war years.
>>>
>>> > >> I think some UFO-dreaming could help us understand this and even Star
>>> > >> Trek touches the fringes. We might, very un-art, start by wondering
>>> > >> who cleans the toilets on the Enterprise.
>>>
>>> > >> On 29 Oct, 19:02, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > >>> The Golden Way out of deference? Yes, that's probably the meaning
>>> > >>> Molly is trying to convey. Thanks, Allan.
>>>
>>> > >>> On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 5:02 PM, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>> > >>> > Gabby one of the major deference between me and christianity is I
>>> > see
>>> > >>> > God as what makes up my being,, I do not see God as being else
>>> > where.
>>> > >>> > I am expected to live up to my beliefs not making excuses to justify
>>> > >>> > violating those rules.
>>> > >>> > Allan
>>>
>>> > >>> > On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 1:24 PM, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>> > >>> >> Oh, hi Molly! Yes, it's true, I dared to read the bible on the same
>>> > >>> >> level as fairy tales. My Protestant nature, I guess. Going out,
>>> > >>> >> looking out, speaking out is part of that tradition too. What is it
>>> > in
>>> > >>> >> your life that makes you being different?
>>>
>>> > >>> >> On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 1:06 PM, Molly <mollyb...@gmail.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>> > >>> >>> Looking for God outside oneself can lead to magical gang gods at a
>>> > level
>>> > >>> >>> where only the fit and corrupt survive. Many fairy tales are
>>> > imbued with
>>> > >>> >>> mystical thinking, including the bible.
>>>
>>> > >>> >>> On Monday, October 29, 2012 5:20:17 AM UTC-4, gabbydott wrote:
>>>
>>> > >>> >>>> I don't know why these far-away and up-above gods and godesses
>>> > never
>>> > >>> >>>> really made it into my heart. Maybe the down-to-earth fairy tales
>>> > >>> >>>> resembled my surroundings much more. It gives me the creeps when
>>> > >>> >>>> little street gangstas are referring to Nemesis and believe they
>>> > have
>>> > >>> >>>> got the key to the kingdom now.
>>>
>>> > >>> >>>> On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 4:35 AM, rigsy03 <rig...@yahoo.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>> > >>> >>>> > I pray to a God everyday but am not sure which one. He is male
>>> > and
>>> > >>> >>>> > seems helpful. Today he bolstered my strength rearranging some
>>> > >>> >>>> > furniture then rebolstered me moving stuff back as it was.
>>> > However, I
>>> > >>> >>>> > cooked a hearty meal of steak, potatoes and asparagus for
>>> > insurance.//
>>> > >>> >>>> > I think the Greek and Roman gods and goddesses represent human
>>> > nature
>>> > >>> >>>> > and traits- really provide some valuable insights for mere
>>> > mortals.
>>>
>>> > >>> >>>> > On Oct 28, 12:45 pm, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > >>> >>>> >> Ah Lee, by that time you would have forgotten where you were
>>> > coming
>>> > >>> >>>> >> from!
>>>
>>> > >>> >>>> >> I like monotheism, because it supports my view of myself as an
>>> > >>> >>>> >> individual. And it allows me to act upon it as such. I am
>>> > aware that I
>>> > >>> >>>> >> am a social being though. Polytheism would be able to account
>>> > for
>>> > >>> >>>> >> that, but would probably only confuse me.
>>>
>>> > >>> >>>> >> On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 6:20 PM, Lee Douglas <
>>> > leerevdoug...@gmail.com>
>>> > >>> >>>> >> wrote:
>>> > >>> >>>> >> > Well that is true Rigsy, and perhaps your prediction is also
>>> > true.
>>> > >>> >>>> >> > However
>>> > >>> >>>> >> > religious faith is 'unreasonable' belief. As it is my
>>> > stance that we
>>> > >>> >>>> >> > all
>>> > >>> >>>> >> > hold to some of these along the way, then perhaps it is a
>>> > wholly
>>> > >>> >>>> >> > human/sentient being trait and we'll not be rid of it, only
>>> > time will
>>> > >>> >>>> >> > tell.
>>> > >>> >>>> >> > Just one of the reasons I want to reach at least 400 years
>>> > old.
>>>
>>> > >>> >>>> >> > On Sunday, October 28, 2012 12:52:50 PM UTC, rigsy03 wrote:
>>>
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> Really? What about the Italian scientists who face prison
>>> > time for
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> failing to predict the severity of an earthquake? What
>>> > harmony under
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> the mantle of monotheism? Science and technology will make
>>> > god(s)
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> obsolete and society can still be managed through various
>>> > value
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> systems based on new realities and methods of control.
>>> > Presently, we
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> are trying to integrate two oppositional positions which
>>> > accounts
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> for
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> a good amount of absurdity and disappointment. As extinct
>>> > creatures
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> might have warned us, sentimentality is deadly.
>>>
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> On Oct 28, 2:12 am, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > I really do not see much beyond monotheism atheism holds
>>> > little
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > but
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > wishful madness, and as for polytheism the universes
>>> > would be
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > totally
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > different.. Just doesn't work.. You are right arrogance
>>> > is a
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > tremendous problem which I seriously doubt man will over
>>> > come..
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > those
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > that are arrogant have little reason to change.. It is
>>> > the
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > monotheism
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > that keeps some what harmony,, the problems I see come
>>> > from man
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > changing the laws of God that have been handed down
>>> > through the
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > generations .. It seems these changes are really
>>> > designed to
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > benefit
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > them and their goals.
>>>
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > without a singular God there would be no harmony even
>>> > with in
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > nature
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > and the predictability of science would disappear.
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > Allan
>>>
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 4:12 AM, James <
>>> > ashkas...@gmail.com>
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > wrote:
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > > I agree with S. W. Hawking where this is unknown
>>> > territory, we
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > > have a
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > > tendency to being destructive and careless. We must
>>> > evolve if we
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > > wish
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > > to
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > > survive, boldly while trying to work out that Achilles
>>> > heel
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > > (arrogance).
>>>
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > > Allan I was thinking similarly in part, I am not so
>>> > sure
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > > monotheism is
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > > for
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > > everyone though. Where people can devise stories to fit
>>> > a niche
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > > in
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > > nature,
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > > then further reconcile from that I think there is much
>>> > less to
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > > say on
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > > God
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > > than people might, it may even be sacrilege to do so.
>>> > In the
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > > sense of
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > > attempting authority on the nameless, a belligerent act
>>> > so to
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > > speak.
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > > Agrarian civilization, centralization of authority, and
>>> > cultural
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > > homogeneity
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > > (dare add monotheism) have
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