Wednesday, October 31, 2012

Re: Mind's Eye Re: Aliens, Slavery and Resources

LOL my problem is Gabby I don't know how to bake..
Allan

Matrix  **  th3 beginning light

On Oct 31, 2012 8:39 AM, "gabbydott" <gabbydott@gmail.com> wrote:
Allan, just download the update for the milk and honey version and get
over with it! Always the same complaints with you techy guys!

On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 8:02 AM, Allan H <allanh1946@gmail.com> wrote:
> has the supreme court of Rigsy ruled that cookies must be supplied on demand??
> Allan
>
> On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 3:39 AM, rigsy03 <rigsy03@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> You are all very sweet to wish me well but I am safely nestled in
>> America's belly. I will join your collective wishes for the east coast
>> as it is ruinous and very sad to track.//Catching up: the fall lawn
>> clean-up and cut backs were the best ever- hope the snow service is
>> the same later on. My daughter has scared me with visions of a sugar
>> plum Christmas she remembers from her childhood forgetting that she
>> has abscounded with most all the decorations- even to the cookie
>> cutters! We'll work it out. Have been getting bedrooms and kitchen in
>> gear for the holidays so there isn't a last minute rush/heart attack.
>> This house is a riot- but that is another topic. A couple invitations-
>> will go to one- a baby shower. Exit the momastery! And yes, Gabby, was
>> thinking of the warm sun during these cloudy days and cold nights. Saw
>> myself sitting in the desert- very strange. Love to all- be safe.
>>
>> On Oct 30, 7:53 pm, Molly <mollyb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Yes, hope all is well for you rigsy.  In Detroit we have Sandy's wind and a
>>> bit of rain and sleet, but nothing like NYC.  thinking of you with love.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, October 30, 2012 5:20:35 PM UTC-4, Allan Heretic wrote:
>>>
>>> > sounds like you are really going to be needing your snow guy Rigsy,,
>>> > heard WV had over a meter of snow fall  that must be a bitch.
>>> > Allan
>>>
>>> > On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 8:56 PM, gabbydott <gabb...@gmail.com<javascript:>>
>>> > wrote:
>>> > > You see, Neil, that's exactly why I thought we have Rigsy write the
>>> > > abstract and make her come out of the kitchen after her snow guy had
>>> > > done his job. You have spoiled it all now!
>>>
>>> > > On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 11:25 AM, archytas <nwt...@gmail.com<javascript:>>
>>> > wrote:
>>> > >> I've just become a paradigm case of Bill's "bored traveller" - long
>>> > >> weekend with an American friend in Rome looking at art entailing the
>>> > >> Vatican (which didn't spontaneously combust) - Bernini etc.  There was
>>> > >> a Hombeck on candle-light which will stick forever.  I got the
>>> > >> impression Bernini could do something in static stone that would give
>>> > >> the impression of a Jimmy Johnstone dribble (he was the best ever at
>>> > >> this spectacle, if not the most effective player in modern soccer
>>> > >> terms).  Couldn't get a coffee in the city that never sleeps at 3 a.m.
>>> > >> and ended-up in a Mcdonalds.  The place is a dreadful tourist rip-off
>>> > >> and a week would have bankrupted us.  Flight home was delayed by an
>>> > >> outbreak of Italian indolence and refusal to drive the bus to the
>>> > >> plane.  Airport full of disgruntled Americans delayed by Sandy.
>>> > >> Greece and Rome descend from slave economies and attitudes that work
>>> > >> scars the soul.
>>> > >> There was so much to see and it was so pleasant to walk I came home
>>> > >> hobbling on a blister.
>>>
>>> > >> Much biology is based on the economics of energy - we always seem to
>>> > >> want explanation in terms of why an organism would expend the energy
>>> > >> required to maintain an organ and so on.  Our brains and even memory
>>> > >> need justification in energy terms.  Much of my own interest in the
>>> > >> subject concerns desire to overcome its predestination - which these
>>> > >> days would be talked about through the notion of co-evolution and its
>>> > >> 'arms races'.  My own guess for a long time has been we need to
>>> > >> organise work differently - I favour a federal Europe (World) of a
>>> > >> free table with work as a shared obligation - but one always finds
>>> > >> such opinion has been held before - one example here would be the
>>> > >> Strasser brothers who organised the Nazis when Hitler came out of
>>> > >> jail.  Politically I tend to think we are stuck in the hands of a
>>> > >> rentier class much as in the inter-war years.
>>>
>>> > >> I think some UFO-dreaming could help us understand this and even Star
>>> > >> Trek touches the fringes.  We might, very un-art, start by wondering
>>> > >> who cleans the toilets on the Enterprise.
>>>
>>> > >> On 29 Oct, 19:02, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > >>> The Golden Way out of deference? Yes, that's probably the meaning
>>> > >>> Molly is trying to convey. Thanks, Allan.
>>>
>>> > >>> On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 5:02 PM, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>> > >>> > Gabby one of the major deference between me and christianity is I
>>> > see
>>> > >>> > God as what makes up my being,,  I do not see God as being else
>>> > where.
>>> > >>> > I am expected to live up to my beliefs not making excuses to justify
>>> > >>> > violating those rules.
>>> > >>> > Allan
>>>
>>> > >>> > On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 1:24 PM, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>> > >>> >> Oh, hi Molly! Yes, it's true, I dared to read the bible on the same
>>> > >>> >> level as fairy tales. My Protestant nature, I guess. Going out,
>>> > >>> >> looking out, speaking out is part of that tradition too. What is it
>>> > in
>>> > >>> >> your life that makes you being different?
>>>
>>> > >>> >> On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 1:06 PM, Molly <mollyb...@gmail.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>> > >>> >>> Looking for God outside oneself can lead to magical gang gods at a
>>> > level
>>> > >>> >>> where only the fit and corrupt survive.  Many fairy tales are
>>> > imbued with
>>> > >>> >>> mystical thinking, including the bible.
>>>
>>> > >>> >>> On Monday, October 29, 2012 5:20:17 AM UTC-4, gabbydott wrote:
>>>
>>> > >>> >>>> I don't know why these far-away and up-above gods and godesses
>>> > never
>>> > >>> >>>> really made it into my heart. Maybe the down-to-earth fairy tales
>>> > >>> >>>> resembled my surroundings much more. It gives me the creeps when
>>> > >>> >>>> little street gangstas are referring to Nemesis and believe they
>>> > have
>>> > >>> >>>> got the key to the kingdom now.
>>>
>>> > >>> >>>> On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 4:35 AM, rigsy03 <rig...@yahoo.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>> > >>> >>>> > I pray to a God everyday but am not sure which one. He is male
>>> > and
>>> > >>> >>>> > seems helpful. Today he bolstered my strength rearranging some
>>> > >>> >>>> > furniture then rebolstered me moving stuff back as it was.
>>> > However, I
>>> > >>> >>>> > cooked a hearty meal of steak, potatoes and asparagus for
>>> > insurance.//
>>> > >>> >>>> > I think the Greek and Roman gods and goddesses represent human
>>> > nature
>>> > >>> >>>> > and traits- really provide some valuable insights for mere
>>> > mortals.
>>>
>>> > >>> >>>> > On Oct 28, 12:45 pm, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > >>> >>>> >> Ah Lee, by that time you would have forgotten where you were
>>> > coming
>>> > >>> >>>> >> from!
>>>
>>> > >>> >>>> >> I like monotheism, because it supports my view of myself as an
>>> > >>> >>>> >> individual. And it allows me to act upon it as such. I am
>>> > aware that I
>>> > >>> >>>> >> am a social being though. Polytheism would be able to account
>>> > for
>>> > >>> >>>> >> that, but would probably only confuse me.
>>>
>>> > >>> >>>> >> On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 6:20 PM, Lee Douglas <
>>> > leerevdoug...@gmail.com>
>>> > >>> >>>> >> wrote:
>>> > >>> >>>> >> > Well that is true Rigsy, and perhaps your prediction is also
>>> > true.
>>> > >>> >>>> >> > However
>>> > >>> >>>> >> > religious faith is 'unreasonable' belief.  As it is my
>>> > stance that we
>>> > >>> >>>> >> > all
>>> > >>> >>>> >> > hold to some of these along the way, then perhaps it is a
>>> > wholly
>>> > >>> >>>> >> > human/sentient being trait and we'll not be rid of it, only
>>> > time will
>>> > >>> >>>> >> > tell.
>>> > >>> >>>> >> > Just one of the reasons I want to reach at least 400 years
>>> > old.
>>>
>>> > >>> >>>> >> > On Sunday, October 28, 2012 12:52:50 PM UTC, rigsy03 wrote:
>>>
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> Really? What about the Italian scientists who face prison
>>> > time for
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> failing to predict the severity of an earthquake? What
>>> > harmony under
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> the mantle of monotheism? Science and technology will make
>>> > god(s)
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> obsolete and society can still be managed through various
>>> > value
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> systems based on new realities and methods of control.
>>> > Presently, we
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> are trying to integrate two oppositional positions which
>>> > accounts
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> for
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> a good amount of absurdity and disappointment. As extinct
>>> > creatures
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> might have warned us, sentimentality is deadly.
>>>
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> On Oct 28, 2:12 am, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > I really do not see much beyond monotheism  atheism holds
>>> > little
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > but
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > wishful madness, and as for polytheism the universes
>>> > would be
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > totally
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > different..   Just doesn't work.. You are right arrogance
>>> > is a
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > tremendous problem which I seriously doubt man will over
>>> > come..
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > those
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > that are arrogant have little reason to change.. It is
>>> > the
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > monotheism
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > that keeps some what harmony,,  the problems I see come
>>> > from man
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > changing the laws of God that have been handed down
>>> > through the
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > generations ..  It seems these changes are really
>>> > designed to
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > benefit
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > them and their goals.
>>>
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > without a singular God there would be no harmony even
>>> > with in
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > nature
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > and the predictability of science would disappear.
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > Allan
>>>
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 4:12 AM, James <
>>> > ashkas...@gmail.com>
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > wrote:
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > > I agree with S. W. Hawking where this is unknown
>>> > territory, we
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > > have a
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > > tendency to being destructive and careless. We must
>>> > evolve if we
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > > wish
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > > to
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > > survive, boldly while trying to work out that Achilles
>>> > heel
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > > (arrogance).
>>>
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > > Allan I was thinking similarly in part, I am not so
>>> > sure
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > > monotheism is
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > > for
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > > everyone though. Where people can devise stories to fit
>>> > a niche
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > > in
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > > nature,
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > > then further reconcile from that I think there is much
>>> > less to
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > > say on
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > > God
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > > than people might, it may even be sacrilege to do so.
>>> > In the
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > > sense of
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > > attempting authority on the nameless, a belligerent act
>>> > so to
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > > speak.
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > > Agrarian civilization, centralization of authority, and
>>> > cultural
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > > homogeneity
>>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > > (dare add monotheism) have
>>>
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