Re: Mind's Eye Re: Aliens, Slavery and Resources

has the supreme court of Rigsy ruled that cookies must be supplied on demand??
Allan

On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 3:39 AM, rigsy03 <rigsy03@yahoo.com> wrote:
> You are all very sweet to wish me well but I am safely nestled in
> America's belly. I will join your collective wishes for the east coast
> as it is ruinous and very sad to track.//Catching up: the fall lawn
> clean-up and cut backs were the best ever- hope the snow service is
> the same later on. My daughter has scared me with visions of a sugar
> plum Christmas she remembers from her childhood forgetting that she
> has abscounded with most all the decorations- even to the cookie
> cutters! We'll work it out. Have been getting bedrooms and kitchen in
> gear for the holidays so there isn't a last minute rush/heart attack.
> This house is a riot- but that is another topic. A couple invitations-
> will go to one- a baby shower. Exit the momastery! And yes, Gabby, was
> thinking of the warm sun during these cloudy days and cold nights. Saw
> myself sitting in the desert- very strange. Love to all- be safe.
>
> On Oct 30, 7:53 pm, Molly <mollyb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Yes, hope all is well for you rigsy. In Detroit we have Sandy's wind and a
>> bit of rain and sleet, but nothing like NYC. thinking of you with love.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, October 30, 2012 5:20:35 PM UTC-4, Allan Heretic wrote:
>>
>> > sounds like you are really going to be needing your snow guy Rigsy,,
>> > heard WV had over a meter of snow fall that must be a bitch.
>> > Allan
>>
>> > On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 8:56 PM, gabbydott <gabb...@gmail.com<javascript:>>
>> > wrote:
>> > > You see, Neil, that's exactly why I thought we have Rigsy write the
>> > > abstract and make her come out of the kitchen after her snow guy had
>> > > done his job. You have spoiled it all now!
>>
>> > > On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 11:25 AM, archytas <nwt...@gmail.com<javascript:>>
>> > wrote:
>> > >> I've just become a paradigm case of Bill's "bored traveller" - long
>> > >> weekend with an American friend in Rome looking at art entailing the
>> > >> Vatican (which didn't spontaneously combust) - Bernini etc. There was
>> > >> a Hombeck on candle-light which will stick forever. I got the
>> > >> impression Bernini could do something in static stone that would give
>> > >> the impression of a Jimmy Johnstone dribble (he was the best ever at
>> > >> this spectacle, if not the most effective player in modern soccer
>> > >> terms). Couldn't get a coffee in the city that never sleeps at 3 a.m.
>> > >> and ended-up in a Mcdonalds. The place is a dreadful tourist rip-off
>> > >> and a week would have bankrupted us. Flight home was delayed by an
>> > >> outbreak of Italian indolence and refusal to drive the bus to the
>> > >> plane. Airport full of disgruntled Americans delayed by Sandy.
>> > >> Greece and Rome descend from slave economies and attitudes that work
>> > >> scars the soul.
>> > >> There was so much to see and it was so pleasant to walk I came home
>> > >> hobbling on a blister.
>>
>> > >> Much biology is based on the economics of energy - we always seem to
>> > >> want explanation in terms of why an organism would expend the energy
>> > >> required to maintain an organ and so on. Our brains and even memory
>> > >> need justification in energy terms. Much of my own interest in the
>> > >> subject concerns desire to overcome its predestination - which these
>> > >> days would be talked about through the notion of co-evolution and its
>> > >> 'arms races'. My own guess for a long time has been we need to
>> > >> organise work differently - I favour a federal Europe (World) of a
>> > >> free table with work as a shared obligation - but one always finds
>> > >> such opinion has been held before - one example here would be the
>> > >> Strasser brothers who organised the Nazis when Hitler came out of
>> > >> jail. Politically I tend to think we are stuck in the hands of a
>> > >> rentier class much as in the inter-war years.
>>
>> > >> I think some UFO-dreaming could help us understand this and even Star
>> > >> Trek touches the fringes. We might, very un-art, start by wondering
>> > >> who cleans the toilets on the Enterprise.
>>
>> > >> On 29 Oct, 19:02, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >>> The Golden Way out of deference? Yes, that's probably the meaning
>> > >>> Molly is trying to convey. Thanks, Allan.
>>
>> > >>> On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 5:02 PM, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> > >>> > Gabby one of the major deference between me and christianity is I
>> > see
>> > >>> > God as what makes up my being,, I do not see God as being else
>> > where.
>> > >>> > I am expected to live up to my beliefs not making excuses to justify
>> > >>> > violating those rules.
>> > >>> > Allan
>>
>> > >>> > On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 1:24 PM, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> > >>> >> Oh, hi Molly! Yes, it's true, I dared to read the bible on the same
>> > >>> >> level as fairy tales. My Protestant nature, I guess. Going out,
>> > >>> >> looking out, speaking out is part of that tradition too. What is it
>> > in
>> > >>> >> your life that makes you being different?
>>
>> > >>> >> On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 1:06 PM, Molly <mollyb...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> > >>> >>> Looking for God outside oneself can lead to magical gang gods at a
>> > level
>> > >>> >>> where only the fit and corrupt survive. Many fairy tales are
>> > imbued with
>> > >>> >>> mystical thinking, including the bible.
>>
>> > >>> >>> On Monday, October 29, 2012 5:20:17 AM UTC-4, gabbydott wrote:
>>
>> > >>> >>>> I don't know why these far-away and up-above gods and godesses
>> > never
>> > >>> >>>> really made it into my heart. Maybe the down-to-earth fairy tales
>> > >>> >>>> resembled my surroundings much more. It gives me the creeps when
>> > >>> >>>> little street gangstas are referring to Nemesis and believe they
>> > have
>> > >>> >>>> got the key to the kingdom now.
>>
>> > >>> >>>> On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 4:35 AM, rigsy03 <rig...@yahoo.com>
>> > wrote:
>> > >>> >>>> > I pray to a God everyday but am not sure which one. He is male
>> > and
>> > >>> >>>> > seems helpful. Today he bolstered my strength rearranging some
>> > >>> >>>> > furniture then rebolstered me moving stuff back as it was.
>> > However, I
>> > >>> >>>> > cooked a hearty meal of steak, potatoes and asparagus for
>> > insurance.//
>> > >>> >>>> > I think the Greek and Roman gods and goddesses represent human
>> > nature
>> > >>> >>>> > and traits- really provide some valuable insights for mere
>> > mortals.
>>
>> > >>> >>>> > On Oct 28, 12:45 pm, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >>> >>>> >> Ah Lee, by that time you would have forgotten where you were
>> > coming
>> > >>> >>>> >> from!
>>
>> > >>> >>>> >> I like monotheism, because it supports my view of myself as an
>> > >>> >>>> >> individual. And it allows me to act upon it as such. I am
>> > aware that I
>> > >>> >>>> >> am a social being though. Polytheism would be able to account
>> > for
>> > >>> >>>> >> that, but would probably only confuse me.
>>
>> > >>> >>>> >> On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 6:20 PM, Lee Douglas <
>> > leerevdoug...@gmail.com>
>> > >>> >>>> >> wrote:
>> > >>> >>>> >> > Well that is true Rigsy, and perhaps your prediction is also
>> > true.
>> > >>> >>>> >> > However
>> > >>> >>>> >> > religious faith is 'unreasonable' belief. As it is my
>> > stance that we
>> > >>> >>>> >> > all
>> > >>> >>>> >> > hold to some of these along the way, then perhaps it is a
>> > wholly
>> > >>> >>>> >> > human/sentient being trait and we'll not be rid of it, only
>> > time will
>> > >>> >>>> >> > tell.
>> > >>> >>>> >> > Just one of the reasons I want to reach at least 400 years
>> > old.
>>
>> > >>> >>>> >> > On Sunday, October 28, 2012 12:52:50 PM UTC, rigsy03 wrote:
>>
>> > >>> >>>> >> >> Really? What about the Italian scientists who face prison
>> > time for
>> > >>> >>>> >> >> failing to predict the severity of an earthquake? What
>> > harmony under
>> > >>> >>>> >> >> the mantle of monotheism? Science and technology will make
>> > god(s)
>> > >>> >>>> >> >> obsolete and society can still be managed through various
>> > value
>> > >>> >>>> >> >> systems based on new realities and methods of control.
>> > Presently, we
>> > >>> >>>> >> >> are trying to integrate two oppositional positions which
>> > accounts
>> > >>> >>>> >> >> for
>> > >>> >>>> >> >> a good amount of absurdity and disappointment. As extinct
>> > creatures
>> > >>> >>>> >> >> might have warned us, sentimentality is deadly.
>>
>> > >>> >>>> >> >> On Oct 28, 2:12 am, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > I really do not see much beyond monotheism atheism holds
>> > little
>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > but
>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > wishful madness, and as for polytheism the universes
>> > would be
>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > totally
>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > different.. Just doesn't work.. You are right arrogance
>> > is a
>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > tremendous problem which I seriously doubt man will over
>> > come..
>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > those
>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > that are arrogant have little reason to change.. It is
>> > the
>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > monotheism
>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > that keeps some what harmony,, the problems I see come
>> > from man
>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > changing the laws of God that have been handed down
>> > through the
>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > generations .. It seems these changes are really
>> > designed to
>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > benefit
>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > them and their goals.
>>
>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > without a singular God there would be no harmony even
>> > with in
>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > nature
>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > and the predictability of science would disappear.
>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > Allan
>>
>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 4:12 AM, James <
>> > ashkas...@gmail.com>
>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > wrote:
>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > > I agree with S. W. Hawking where this is unknown
>> > territory, we
>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > > have a
>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > > tendency to being destructive and careless. We must
>> > evolve if we
>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > > wish
>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > > to
>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > > survive, boldly while trying to work out that Achilles
>> > heel
>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > > (arrogance).
>>
>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > > Allan I was thinking similarly in part, I am not so
>> > sure
>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > > monotheism is
>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > > for
>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > > everyone though. Where people can devise stories to fit
>> > a niche
>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > > in
>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > > nature,
>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > > then further reconcile from that I think there is much
>> > less to
>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > > say on
>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > > God
>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > > than people might, it may even be sacrilege to do so.
>> > In the
>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > > sense of
>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > > attempting authority on the nameless, a belligerent act
>> > so to
>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > > speak.
>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > > Agrarian civilization, centralization of authority, and
>> > cultural
>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > > homogeneity
>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > > (dare add monotheism) have
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