Friday, December 20, 2013

Re: Mind's Eye Opinions

We take 'legal opinion' of the sort Gabby mentions.  I like her split from personal statement, yet in this wordy world one can easily be gouged by sensible sounding opinion.

In the Duggan case, a cop (V53) shot Mark Duggan.  He claims to have seen a gun, as do two other cops.  Nine other cops there did not see the gun.  It was found 20 feet away over railings in fairly short grass.  No one saw it fly there (etc.) and other people who were there, including one almost standing where it was supposed to be, did not see it.  One woman says she saw a cop carrying it to plant.  Another guy says he saw the shooting and Duggan was holding a mobile phone.  It's a mess - most evidence involving eye-witnesses is - we use cognitive interviewing to try to sort it out.  The techniques was not used in this case - cops refused to be interviewed.  The jury is having trouble making a decision.

In my opinion, the cops are lying and/or confabulating (this is common in adrenaline fueled situations).  The only conclusion I can reach is that cops put into these situations should have a decent CCTV system.  One could say the same of a simple, transparent arithmetic system amongst our banksters.  Many systems prevent us getting direct evidence, forcing reliance on opinion.  People lie and self-deceive.

Our systems have long relied on opinion.  It may be time to remainder this to a fall back position.

On Wednesday, 18 December 2013 20:33:16 UTC, Gabby wrote:
I expect an opinion to be the result of a weighing process of all pros and cons that I know of, whereas a personal statement has not necessarily been weighed against the weight of the world, so to speak. An opinion therefore feels much more rounder than a personal statement. Both would count as originals still. Whereas the deliberate-rounding-in-order-to-create-truth methodology stems from the bubble industry, which leaves the bubble without own originator - not original. We can agree with all options without having to touch the question of originality if we want to. 

But reporting as an eye-witness is something completely different. Instances of the right and wrong, of law and order, need to be made understood what happened. That is really, really difficult.


2013/12/18 andrew vecsey <andrew...@gmail.com>

Every once in a while there are replies to posts stating (or perhaps complaining)  that the opinions stated are just "personal statements" and/or that the opinions stated are "not original". This leaves me puzzled.  Are not ALL  opinions "personal statements"? And are not ALMOST ALL opinions "not original"?   

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