Re: Mind's Eye turning the world Greek

I go to internists and had a new doctor as it was a last minute
appointment- I liked him- a wry type. Am in good shape except for that
dang molar which flared up again so am back on antibiotics till I can
get it yanked for hundreds of dollars. :-) What happened to string and
a slammed door? Anyway, my supplementary has this drug thing so I have
to pay ten times the cost of a generic drug till I reach $125-
outrageous! So there went an afternoon...I rewarded myself with a trip
to Wendys for a junior bacon cheeseburger and sea salt fries- my
favorite junk meal so all was not lost.

On Sep 14, 5:35 am, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> We have a dozen GPs at my practice, so at least I don't face constant
> repetition!
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> On 13 Sep, 16:47, rigsy03 <rigs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > Will get back to this but agree as of now- one could also trace gold,
> > spices, timber, etc. Even grazing pastures and a water supply.
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> > Must rally to get to doctor this afternoon. Good grief- it's always
> > something!!!
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> > On Sep 13, 9:30 am, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > I would suspect anyone wanting to imply offence from you rigsy.  We
> > > don't even know if the bard wrote the plays.  I'm not sure they are
> > > much good.
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> > > I've just started reading 'Carbon Democracy: Political Power in the
> > > Age of Oil' by Timothy Mitchell.  There's a review here -http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2012/09/how-coal-brought-us-democracy-...
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> > > Everything in our politics flows through dense carbon-based energy
> > > sources, and has for three to four hundred years.  For instance, the
> > > invasion of Iraq in 2003 was a pivotal moment in America's strategic
> > > outlook. America, a global hegemon whose empire was weakening, seized
> > > the second largest oil deposits in the world as a way of preventing
> > > its economic and political decline. Was there any precedent for this
> > > kind of action? As it turns out, yes. The last declining global
> > > hegemon, Great Britain, also engaged in a brutal and highly
> > > controversial British occupation of Iraq, in the 1920s, pressed
> > > aggressively by the well-known British conservative, Winston
> > > Churchill. Churchill supported this occupation not just because he
> > > wanted Iraq's oil, but because he wanted to defeat democratic forces –
> > > particularly militant coal miner unions – at home. Churchill and
> > > conservative elites running through British history (most recently
> > > Margaret Thatcher) understood that as long as the British power grid,
> > > and more importantly the military, was dependent on radical coal
> > > miners, his left-leaning labor opponents would be able to demand
> > > higher wages, social insurance, voting rights, and a share of the
> > > economic gains of the British economy.
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> > > I can't say the book is right, but do feel it at least starts one
> > > thinking much of what we discuss as 'politics' evades the real issues.
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> > > On 13 Sep, 01:14, rigsy03 <rigs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > > > I just learned that the term "negress" (and also "Jewess") can be
> > > > considered offensive- which I did not intend nor understand. I
> > > > apologize to any I may have offended.
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> > > > On Sep 12, 2:11 pm, rigsy03 <rigs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > > > > Anthony Burgess wrote a great little novel- "Nothing Like the Sun",
> > > > > which I gave to a friend so I hope I am correct that he posited that
> > > > > the "Dark Lady" was a negress and mistress of the Bard's and think he
> > > > > died of syphillis. Who knows?
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> > > > > On Sep 7, 3:05 pm, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > Wasn't the Dark Lady a young bloke?
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> > > > > > I think we know that the answer has to do with a fair work deal and
> > > > > > cutting corruption.  I'm not sure we understand how disruptive the
> > > > > > rich are and the extent of modern fealty relations.  We need to stop
> > > > > > all the hard work nonsense without giving up to free-loaders and
> > > > > > criminals.  Race to the bottom competition is the big problem.
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> > > > > > On 7 Sep, 11:50, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > > I am missing +Molly in this thread here. Molly, what do YOU think, the
> > > > > > > language that the world is talking in is turning into? How much more
> > > > > > > does the image of Clinton and Obama embracing each other count
> > > > > > > compared to all the nope-facts that have been listed here? Ain't that
> > > > > > > a show with the quality of Shakespearian dramaturgy, being able to
> > > > > > > keep the Dark Lady at bay? Connectivism yes, with the right
> > > > > > > connectors? Do you see where I see you coming in?
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> > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 4:45 AM, Don Johnson <daj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > Wonderful to see the old crew at work talking about something I'm
> > > > > > > > hugely interested in. I can't wait to read your book archy. Be sure to
> > > > > > > > set up a website so you can sell signed copies. I'm going to be all
> > > > > > > > over it.
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> > > > > > > > My aunt and uncle were just in London recently and I told them "to
> > > > > > > > avoid the chavs." Youngsters here are pretty much the same. Just read
> > > > > > > > a bio on George Washington and it was amusing to read some of his
> > > > > > > > letters to his adoptive son's school master and others bemoaning his
> > > > > > > > charge's lack of ambition and disgusting personal conduct. The more
> > > > > > > > things change the more us humans never do. I, of course, was a model
> > > > > > > > adolescent that never got into trouble. Ahem.
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> > > > > > > > I've been focused on my country's choice of leader of late.
> > > > > > > > Conventions and what not. Folks talking alot and saying less then
> > > > > > > > nothing except basically "My opponent sucks ass." Well, they have
> > > > > > > > others do it for them but it's the same.
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> > > > > > > > Yeah, y'all are stuck with the dollar. I know it gives us the
> > > > > > > > advantage in some respects but if the trend of downsizing our military
> > > > > > > > continues I suspect Fran's more pessimistic fears may come to pass.
> > > > > > > > This is in no ones best interest except the crazy Anarchists. The
> > > > > > > > eternal optimist in me suspects that with a little government show or
> > > > > > > > restraint(stop hemmorhaging my hard earned cash) folks(including the
> > > > > > > > much maligned .01 percenters) will be more willing to pay up to start
> > > > > > > > paying down the debt. We don't need another Terror. No thank you. I
> > > > > > > > happen to really like most rich people and would prefer to not see
> > > > > > > > thier heads removed from their bodies.
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> > > > > > > > As usual I read nothing in your posts about the problems we face that
> > > > > > > > I disagree with. It's only when we talk about solutions that we
> > > > > > > > differ. I see massive fraud here in the USA. Everybody wants their
> > > > > > > > turn on the tit and those that have been on the longest are the
> > > > > > > > hardest to drag off. Incidentally I just watched Cinderella Man about
> > > > > > > > John Braddock's heavy weight fight. This was back in the Depression
> > > > > > > > when folks were shamed about taking public asistance. Now, folks brag
> > > > > > > > about how much they get. The Culture has changed somewhat and short of
> > > > > > > > censorship(which I hate) I haven't a clue how to fix it.
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> > > > > > > > I hope to find some time Sunday to delve into this topic further and
> > > > > > > > perhaps be more careful to spell better(no speel check) and not
> > > > > > > > over-use parenthisis. I was a lazy child in English class.
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> > > > > > > > dj
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> > > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 10:20 AM, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > >> The problem is that once the government or the rulers gain control of
> > > > > > > >> money, it progressively ceases to be a medium of exchange and becomes
> > > > > > > >> a medium of control. That impinges on the functioning of markets which
> > > > > > > >> in turn impinges on the maintenance of property rights. Thus, we come
> > > > > > > >> full circle from a free society to a command society. There has never
> > > > > > > >> been any shortage of those who want to rule. The problem has always
> > > > > > > >> been with the vast majority who are content to be ruled. Today's
> > > > > > > >> global outcry for the manufacturing of more and more "money" out of
> > > > > > > >> thin air is an eloquent testimony. It shows that most people have no
> > > > > > > >> understanding of freedom, markets or money. Lacking such understanding
> > > > > > > >> - and having no desire to gain it - most people have accepted
> > > > > > > >> government as their masters.
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> > > > > > > >> As Robert Heinlein stated the problem - it is impossible to free a
> > > > > > > >> serf or a slave. He or she must free themselves and most are much more
> > > > > > > >> terrified of that prospect than they are resentful of being ruled.
> > > > > > > >> Sometimes Gabbers sounds like one of those women who sit around
> > > > > > > >> looking pretty John Cheever used to write about.  I know she isn't, a
> > > > > > > >> matter for taking either way and one end against the other.  The
> > > > > > > >> Germans have no sense of humour we Anglo-Saxons can understand because
> > > > > > > >> it just isn't funny kind thing.  I too am part post-modern text
> > > > > > > >> engine.  Did you know we are probably 'related' Gabs?  A whole pile of
> > > > > > > >> your guys invaded Scotland with farming about 3000 years ago.  It
> > > > > > > >> seems the Germans are responsible not only for bad opera and the
> > > > > > > >> interminable Mahler, but also porridge.
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> > > > > > > >> The blueberry pie is spot on rigsy - even if you give me the recipe
> > > > > > > >> I'll probably foul-up the cooking.  Much complexity in maths comes
> > > > > > > >> down to formulating the sum so we can count - the modern solution to
> > > > > > > >> Fermat's last theorem is an example, however cunning. My suspicion is
> > > > > > > >> there is no pie to bake with the arguments about.  Wittgenstein used
> > > > > > > >> to take apparently very different arguments and show they were based
> > > > > > > >> on what in my everyday I'd call the same shit.  No doubt some would
> > > > > > > >> prefer 'root metaphor'.  This is merely an application of set theory,
> > > > > > > >> and eventually leads to the notion the universe is just the history of
> > > > > > > >> an electron over time, or Barthes' idea text is all about seduction.
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> > > > > > > >> My suspicion
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