Now your true colors are showing Rigsy, you sky cougar you.
Allan
On Sep 11, 2012 5:07 AM, "rigsy03" <rigsy03@yahoo.com> wrote:
-- I'm content. Andy Murray won the US Open. His legs won it. :-)
On Sep 10, 11:30 am, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I think the hope is to optimise away from being so boring on the issue
> of sexual orientation as gay, bi, lesbian and straight. Only
> godswank prejudice could ever have led us to be bothered.
> Orientation towards violent, predatory and exploitative sex does seem
> worthy of consideration and there is sadly plenty of it. I suspect
> this pathology is the model for our political economy.
>
> I can sympathise with being Molly - Heidegger tortured it death. I
> came across a paedophile case recently in which the perpetrator had a
> brain tumour. Once removed the behaviour disappeared. The scalpel
> saved him rather than introspection. I agree, of course, that we need
> more reflection on what we can be and how to live. If life as we know
> it (Jim) was a holiday destination, I wouldn't be coming back.
>
> Women (as in cosmetic adverts) make me sick, as would anyone attracted
> to Marks and Spencer by its latest clothes-horse marketing. It seems
> I have little orientation towards bimboism. Anthropology gives us
> reason to suppose sexuality is culturally manufactured in large
> degree. I suspect we don't think very clearly about it
>
> Much as I don't like rules, I think we can value them in minimal
> form. I'd guess one we're missing on sexuality is its use in
> distraction, much like religious rituals. I have to say, Gabs, that
> the sexuality of any offspring would be of less concern to me than
> general health - thus no doubt making be ableist against the social
> model of disability. One might ponder whether one would prefer a
> child to carry potential to be a fast-bowling all rounder or born
> straight (no contest for me). The Italian aristocracy model from the
> 17th century was essentially gay - women were just breeding machines.
> I am not an aristocrat and, having watched England thrash the West
> Indies in women's cricket, am a little sad I'm too old to make a fool
> of myself with the whole eleven.
>
> On 10 Sep, 16:33, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > This translates that there is hope for mankind to be able to optimize
> > their offspring's sexual orientation to the desired one. An old
> > belief.
>
> > On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 2:54 PM, Molly <mollyb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I'd say that genes only rule rationality when rationality or "mind" rules
> > > being. A quiet mind opens endless possibility. Epigenetics is changing the
> > > paradigm as we find our genetic code in flux and responsive to our internal
> > > environment. Twins separated at birth match their adoptive parents genetic
> > > code more than their biological. All quite fascinating.
>
> > > On Monday, September 10, 2012 7:35:52 AM UTC-4, archytas wrote:
>
> > >> I watched some gorillas on television a couple of days back. An all
> > >> male group were practising homosexuality, but then the women moved in
> > >> and they reverted to straight. The alpha appeared to dominate the
> > >> sex, but in fact the others got on with life behind his back. All
> > >> very human. A couple of weeks back I had a bit of a blow out down the
> > >> pub. I was accused by a psycho of fancying his wife - all very ape.
>
> > >> I find sexual orientation pretty boring. I still get the smarts from
> > >> time to time, but find sex as commercially presented dull. I'd say
> > >> each to his or her own if my old job hadn't exposed me to utter
> > >> perversion. I have a mate into bondage and pain and that's his
> > >> business. I can't say the same about sex tourism and child abuse such
> > >> as getting sex from young kids by giving them mobile phones. Most
> > >> cultures have abusive sex rings and weird rituals. I have a
> > >> particular disdain for men in skirts waiving incense, pretending
> > >> holiness and abusing kids.
>
> > >> I'm a cuddly sort under whatever enigma I present or is (more
> > >> accurately I think) perceived by others. Derrida had it somewhere
> > >> that the pen scratching paper is violence. My favourite sports are
> > >> violent (cricket and rugby). Sex itself is somewhat more violent than
> > >> scratching paper with a nib, though our ludic gasps are not usually
> > >> about pain.
>
> > >> I'm not at all sure sexual orientation is about straight, gay, lesbian
> > >> and so on. Sue's dog has a thing for my duffle-coat, teenage legs as
> > >> he approaches 'maturity' and is devoted to our female cat. What
> > >> consenting people do between themselves is generally of no account,
> > >> though the taboos we have on age and incest are about right.
>
> > >> Genetically, we are close to not needing sexual relations for
> > >> reproduction - either sex can, in principle, reproduce without the
> > >> other, and again in principle, we could build the 'next model' from
> > >> chemical constituents.
>
> > >> I suspect our economic affairs are little more than some sublimated
> > >> ape genetics. I'm interested in how gang-rape and abuse cultures come
> > >> about in an attempt to understand how a sexual orientation infringes
> > >> emancipation and consenting mutuality - and how we might live free of
> > >> the domination of genes over rationality (itself somewhat gene-driven).
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