Re: Mind's Eye Re: Politics

I get so confused about a political self-definition- perhaps I am a
conservative-progressive. Is that combo possible? Probably not.

After seeing a recent film of "Brideshead Revisited"- Evelyn Waugh, I
just finished reading his bio on Wikipedia. Now there is an
interesting combustion of tunes!

I like watching Poirot-Agatha Christie as it reminds me of the
vestiges of the '30's/parents but then I missed the program on the
Barnes Collection in Philadelphia with just a brief view of an
outstanding collection- built from the wealth of an early cure for a
std. Life is astonishing! Anyway there are some shots of the art on
the Wikipedia site. Maybe the entire collection is published by now as
I doubt life includes a trip to Philadelphia which scared two of my
children so would probably paralyse me (they were not used to flash
gangs).

Back to politics- I think I am worried Obama will not get elected and
the country will erupt.

On Aug 4, 5:43 pm, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Gabby always tends to make me 'smirkel'.  Danish tv series like The
> Killing and Borgen present politics much as we find our own.  I agree
> with rigsy, though I think the loops involved are like the ones in
> Garageband - you can junk these together to make tunes.  Some fit
> together, others sound awful.  In politics you have to choose the
> loops that harmonise with your party.  All the loops are old and
> unoriginal.
>
> 0.001% (approximately 92,000 people own most of the world.   If we had
> politics we'd be looking for another money system.  Money has a half-
> life in the radioactivity sense.  If you stuff it in a mattress, most
> of it will have decayed in 20 years.  The investments we can make now
> are such as a guaranteed small loss on German bonds as against quicker
> losses in derivatives.  Politics rarely gets deep enough to make
> sensible points.  One is for or against, say, nuclear power - but we
> never hear liquid thorium reactors mentioned despite there being loads
> more of the stuff than uranium and he reaction route being safer, not
> producing weapons or mega-lasting waste.
>
> Winner takes all in the UK gives us the choice between Thatcher or
> Thatcher in drag (Blair and Cameron) - odd anomalies appear like Brown
> who I suspect sold our gold reserves to gain influence with the
> banksters and become head of the World Bank.
>
> On Jul 31, 1:54 pm, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Let me know when you read the european news ,, not the american version of
> > it either,, there s a big difference.  oh yes I forgot Romney s your hero..
> > Allan
> > On Jul 31, 2012 2:05 PM, "rigsy03" <rigs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > Yes- I heard. It can be risky not reading off a monitor, can't it? :-)
>
> > > Turkey's getting feisty re Syria which will pull in Iran.
>
> > > On Jul 30, 11:41 am, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Well Rigsy
> > > > Listen to Romney the other day,,,  well i do not know if you hard
> > > > his because it was in Israel..  hat to say it if he gets elected the US
> > > is
> > > > into another war   this time with Iran....  I know you dis agree with me.
> > > > Allan
>
> > > > On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 4:56 PM, rigsy03 <rigs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > Let's not argue about politics- it's like arguing about nationality or
> > > > > religion= an endless loop. Besides, either party in the USA is more
> > > > > alike than different in a real sense of impact upon the individual-
> > > > > for instance, waste, debt and extraction of taxes plus snarl of
> > > > > controls and regulations. Consider that most immigrants came to
> > > > > America for a chance to do what was impossible in their ancestral
> > > > > homeland- own property/business and construct a new social order based
> > > > > on wealth rather than aristocratic ancestry, however they tried to
> > > > > emulate the aristocrats in life style and a closed "400"- now
> > > > > shattered by celebrities/nouveau riche. Not sure we really own
> > > > > anything anymore- free and clear- as taxes resemble rent rather than
> > > > > ownership. Larry Sommers (sp?) now proposes equality of opportunity
> > > > > but says little about sweat and talent- nothing new as America was
> > > > > founded on the principle of opportunity, wasn't it? Or did it morph
> > > > > into opportunism which must be corrected?
>
> > > > > On Jul 29, 12:54 am, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > Rigsy  I did not write the piece....   I was looking at the different
> > > > > > political groups.. this showed up with a note that it was not to be
> > > > > > archived  thought it was interesting so I passed it on.
>
> > > > > > The problem wit your blame game theory is all the piece did was put
> > > the
> > > > > > blame where it belonged..
>
> > > > > > Yes Rigsy..  tricked into spending,,  well let us then look at a very
> > > > > > recent times,, like the Iraq war.. the American people were "TRICKED"
> > > > > into
> > > > > > it buy the political parties  they were lied to about the chemical
> > > > > weapons
> > > > > > and the nuclear weapons,,
>
> > > > > > What you are saying is the American people jumped into this war and
> > > the
> > > > > > cost of trillions of Dollars well over a 1/3 million needless
> > > deaths..
> > > > >  Get
> > > > > > real Rigsy and take off the blinders,,  The American People were
> > > conned
> > > > > by
> > > > > > slick talking hucksters and are trying to be set up again by another
> > > > > slick
> > > > > > talking Huckster..
> > > > > > Allan
> > > > > > On Jul 28, 2012 10:09 PM, "rigsy03" <rigs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > Wasn't the socialism of FDR saved by WWII?//Consumers and companies
> > > > > > > are not going to be tricked into spending until they find out
> > > what's
> > > > > > > going to happen to taxes, inflation, Europe, the Muddle East, oil,
> > > > > > > crops>dust bowl?, etc.//Really Allan, the blame game of the extreme
> > > > > > > fringes of Reps and Dems is pathetic.
>
> > > > > > > On Jul 28, 12:29 pm, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > I was looking through the groups and found this on a republican
> > > party
> > > > > > > group
> > > > > > > > slated to be removed in 6 days and not to be archived..   I did
> > > not
> > > > > right
> > > > > > > > this.
> > > > > > > > Allan
>
> > > > > > > > Could that be because of the near total collapse of the national
> > > > > > > > economy, the loss of 40% of the middle class wealth, the attacks
> > > on
> > > > > > > > women, workers, elderly by the GOP since the late 80's?
>
> > > > > > > > >==============================================
>
> > > > > > > > THE BUSH ECONOMIC DISASTER
>
> > > > > > > >  Perhaps it is a little unfair to George W. Bush to name it that,
> > > > > > > > perhaps a more accurate term would be the Reagan/Bush Economic
> > > > > > > > Disaster. Though the damage all came to a head this day one year
> > > ago,
> > > > > > > > it was set in place by the bill of goods sold to the American
> > > People
> > > > > > > > by smooth talking right wing pitch man Ronald Reagan in 1980.
> > > > > > > > Reaganomics once refereed to as "voodoo economics" by George H.
> > > W.
> > > > > > > > Bush was put in place that eventually lead to the disaster of
> > > last
> > > > > > > > year.
>
> > > > > > > > The Republicans sold the American people on a concept that if you
> > > > > take
> > > > > > > > away all regulations, all responsibility and all oversight, the
> > > > > market
> > > > > > > > will protect us naturally. That if you make the rich wealthier,
> > > the
> > > > > > > > benefits will trickle down to the rest of the nation. What
> > > happened
> > > > > > > > instead is the rich did indeed get richer. Meanwhile the numbers
> > > of
> > > > > > > > the poor increased, and the middle class shrunk. For the first
> > > time
> > > > > in
> > > > > > > > our nations history average incomes went down yet the wealth of
> > > he
> > > > > > > > nation was concentrated in fewer and fewer people's pockets. To
> > > > > > > > further complete the redistribution of wealth, those who's greed
> > > and
> > > > > > > > irresponsible behavior got rich, also were given tax breaks. The
> > > > > > > > burden increased again on the poor and middle class.
>
> > > > > > > > Then came George W. Bush. Not only did he continue the
> > > Reaganomics
> > > > > > > > policies but added to them. He passed laws to protect credit card
> > > > > > > > companies from its own customers allowing them unfettered control
> > > > > over
> > > > > > > > interest rates, fees and collections. The Bush Administration
> > > then
> > > > > > > > took away the teeth of the bankruptcy protection laws making it
> > > > > harder
> > > > > > > > for the middle class who came upon hard times to recover. Then
> > > the
> > > > > > > > death blow, George W Bush and a Republican Congress for 6 out of
> > > his
> > > > > 8
> > > > > > > > years in office took our budget from a surplus to a 17 trillion
> > > > > > > > deficit. Throwing away money on a war of choice, and more tax
> > > cuts
> > > > > for
> > > > > > > > the wealthy again leaving 95% of Americans behind.
>
> > > > > > > > Jobs left, opportunity left, false wealth exploded, risk
> > > exploded,
> > > > > > > > oversight and regulation was non existent. And as always happens
> > > > > > > > sooner or later when irresponsible behavior rules it came time
> > > to pay
> > > > > > > > the piper. So one year ago that was clearly evident to all with
> > > the
> > > > > > > > collapse of Lehman Brothers. \line\line So what has happened in
> > > the
> > > > > > > > year since. Well good news and bad news. George W. Bush is out of
> > > > > > > > office and our new President Barack Obama, took quick and
> > > decisive
> > > > > > > > action to stop the bleeding. Many banks were saved, The stock
> > > market
> > > > > > > > had recovered 50% of its losses since last September. The amount
> > > of
> > > > > > > > job loss has been reduced. An auto industry who's collapse would
> > > have
> > > > > > > > cost millions more jobs was averted. Home sales are up, home
> > > values
> > > > > > > > are up. Cash for Clunkers gave a huge shot in the arm to the auto
> > > > > > > > industry. Finally the middle class got a tax cut.
>
> > > > > > > > But now the bad news. The lack of rules and oversight left over
> > > from
> > > > > > > > the Reagan/Bush economic voodoo has not been corrected. Though
> > > we put
> > > > > > > > some oil in the car to prevent the blowing of the engine at the
> > > last
> > > > > > > > minute, we continue to drive and treat the engine the same way
> > > which
> > > > > > > > will lead to another disaster sooner or later. No new regulations
> > > > > have
> > > > > > > > been implemented, no major change in oversight, and the wealth is
> > > > > even
> > > > > > > > more consolidated then before. In fact 3 of every $10 invested in
> > > > > > > > banks or securities in this nation are held in one of 4 very
> > > large,
> > > > > > > > very risky institutions.
>
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