Re: Mind's Eye Re: Politics

Gabby always tends to make me 'smirkel'. Danish tv series like The
Killing and Borgen present politics much as we find our own. I agree
with rigsy, though I think the loops involved are like the ones in
Garageband - you can junk these together to make tunes. Some fit
together, others sound awful. In politics you have to choose the
loops that harmonise with your party. All the loops are old and
unoriginal.

0.001% (approximately 92,000 people own most of the world. If we had
politics we'd be looking for another money system. Money has a half-
life in the radioactivity sense. If you stuff it in a mattress, most
of it will have decayed in 20 years. The investments we can make now
are such as a guaranteed small loss on German bonds as against quicker
losses in derivatives. Politics rarely gets deep enough to make
sensible points. One is for or against, say, nuclear power - but we
never hear liquid thorium reactors mentioned despite there being loads
more of the stuff than uranium and he reaction route being safer, not
producing weapons or mega-lasting waste.

Winner takes all in the UK gives us the choice between Thatcher or
Thatcher in drag (Blair and Cameron) - odd anomalies appear like Brown
who I suspect sold our gold reserves to gain influence with the
banksters and become head of the World Bank.

On Jul 31, 1:54 pm, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Let me know when you read the european news ,, not the american version of
> it either,, there s a big difference.  oh yes I forgot Romney s your hero..
> Allan
> On Jul 31, 2012 2:05 PM, "rigsy03" <rigs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > Yes- I heard. It can be risky not reading off a monitor, can't it? :-)
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> > Turkey's getting feisty re Syria which will pull in Iran.
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> > On Jul 30, 11:41 am, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Well Rigsy
> > > Listen to Romney the other day,,,  well i do not know if you hard
> > > his because it was in Israel..  hat to say it if he gets elected the US
> > is
> > > into another war   this time with Iran....  I know you dis agree with me.
> > > Allan
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> > > On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 4:56 PM, rigsy03 <rigs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > Let's not argue about politics- it's like arguing about nationality or
> > > > religion= an endless loop. Besides, either party in the USA is more
> > > > alike than different in a real sense of impact upon the individual-
> > > > for instance, waste, debt and extraction of taxes plus snarl of
> > > > controls and regulations. Consider that most immigrants came to
> > > > America for a chance to do what was impossible in their ancestral
> > > > homeland- own property/business and construct a new social order based
> > > > on wealth rather than aristocratic ancestry, however they tried to
> > > > emulate the aristocrats in life style and a closed "400"- now
> > > > shattered by celebrities/nouveau riche. Not sure we really own
> > > > anything anymore- free and clear- as taxes resemble rent rather than
> > > > ownership. Larry Sommers (sp?) now proposes equality of opportunity
> > > > but says little about sweat and talent- nothing new as America was
> > > > founded on the principle of opportunity, wasn't it? Or did it morph
> > > > into opportunism which must be corrected?
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> > > > On Jul 29, 12:54 am, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > Rigsy  I did not write the piece....   I was looking at the different
> > > > > political groups.. this showed up with a note that it was not to be
> > > > > archived  thought it was interesting so I passed it on.
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> > > > > The problem wit your blame game theory is all the piece did was put
> > the
> > > > > blame where it belonged..
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> > > > > Yes Rigsy..  tricked into spending,,  well let us then look at a very
> > > > > recent times,, like the Iraq war.. the American people were "TRICKED"
> > > > into
> > > > > it buy the political parties  they were lied to about the chemical
> > > > weapons
> > > > > and the nuclear weapons,,
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> > > > > What you are saying is the American people jumped into this war and
> > the
> > > > > cost of trillions of Dollars well over a 1/3 million needless
> > deaths..
> > > >  Get
> > > > > real Rigsy and take off the blinders,,  The American People were
> > conned
> > > > by
> > > > > slick talking hucksters and are trying to be set up again by another
> > > > slick
> > > > > talking Huckster..
> > > > > Allan
> > > > > On Jul 28, 2012 10:09 PM, "rigsy03" <rigs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > Wasn't the socialism of FDR saved by WWII?//Consumers and companies
> > > > > > are not going to be tricked into spending until they find out
> > what's
> > > > > > going to happen to taxes, inflation, Europe, the Muddle East, oil,
> > > > > > crops>dust bowl?, etc.//Really Allan, the blame game of the extreme
> > > > > > fringes of Reps and Dems is pathetic.
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> > > > > > On Jul 28, 12:29 pm, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > I was looking through the groups and found this on a republican
> > party
> > > > > > group
> > > > > > > slated to be removed in 6 days and not to be archived..   I did
> > not
> > > > right
> > > > > > > this.
> > > > > > > Allan
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> > > > > > > Could that be because of the near total collapse of the national
> > > > > > > economy, the loss of 40% of the middle class wealth, the attacks
> > on
> > > > > > > women, workers, elderly by the GOP since the late 80's?
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> > > > > > > >==============================================
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> > > > > > > THE BUSH ECONOMIC DISASTER
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> > > > > > >  Perhaps it is a little unfair to George W. Bush to name it that,
> > > > > > > perhaps a more accurate term would be the Reagan/Bush Economic
> > > > > > > Disaster. Though the damage all came to a head this day one year
> > ago,
> > > > > > > it was set in place by the bill of goods sold to the American
> > People
> > > > > > > by smooth talking right wing pitch man Ronald Reagan in 1980.
> > > > > > > Reaganomics once refereed to as "voodoo economics" by George H.
> > W.
> > > > > > > Bush was put in place that eventually lead to the disaster of
> > last
> > > > > > > year.
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> > > > > > > The Republicans sold the American people on a concept that if you
> > > > take
> > > > > > > away all regulations, all responsibility and all oversight, the
> > > > market
> > > > > > > will protect us naturally. That if you make the rich wealthier,
> > the
> > > > > > > benefits will trickle down to the rest of the nation. What
> > happened
> > > > > > > instead is the rich did indeed get richer. Meanwhile the numbers
> > of
> > > > > > > the poor increased, and the middle class shrunk. For the first
> > time
> > > > in
> > > > > > > our nations history average incomes went down yet the wealth of
> > he
> > > > > > > nation was concentrated in fewer and fewer people's pockets. To
> > > > > > > further complete the redistribution of wealth, those who's greed
> > and
> > > > > > > irresponsible behavior got rich, also were given tax breaks. The
> > > > > > > burden increased again on the poor and middle class.
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> > > > > > > Then came George W. Bush. Not only did he continue the
> > Reaganomics
> > > > > > > policies but added to them. He passed laws to protect credit card
> > > > > > > companies from its own customers allowing them unfettered control
> > > > over
> > > > > > > interest rates, fees and collections. The Bush Administration
> > then
> > > > > > > took away the teeth of the bankruptcy protection laws making it
> > > > harder
> > > > > > > for the middle class who came upon hard times to recover. Then
> > the
> > > > > > > death blow, George W Bush and a Republican Congress for 6 out of
> > his
> > > > 8
> > > > > > > years in office took our budget from a surplus to a 17 trillion
> > > > > > > deficit. Throwing away money on a war of choice, and more tax
> > cuts
> > > > for
> > > > > > > the wealthy again leaving 95% of Americans behind.
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> > > > > > > Jobs left, opportunity left, false wealth exploded, risk
> > exploded,
> > > > > > > oversight and regulation was non existent. And as always happens
> > > > > > > sooner or later when irresponsible behavior rules it came time
> > to pay
> > > > > > > the piper. So one year ago that was clearly evident to all with
> > the
> > > > > > > collapse of Lehman Brothers. \line\line So what has happened in
> > the
> > > > > > > year since. Well good news and bad news. George W. Bush is out of
> > > > > > > office and our new President Barack Obama, took quick and
> > decisive
> > > > > > > action to stop the bleeding. Many banks were saved, The stock
> > market
> > > > > > > had recovered 50% of its losses since last September. The amount
> > of
> > > > > > > job loss has been reduced. An auto industry who's collapse would
> > have
> > > > > > > cost millions more jobs was averted. Home sales are up, home
> > values
> > > > > > > are up. Cash for Clunkers gave a huge shot in the arm to the auto
> > > > > > > industry. Finally the middle class got a tax cut.
>
> > > > > > > But now the bad news. The lack of rules and oversight left over
> > from
> > > > > > > the Reagan/Bush economic voodoo has not been corrected. Though
> > we put
> > > > > > > some oil in the car to prevent the blowing of the engine at the
> > last
> > > > > > > minute, we continue to drive and treat the engine the same way
> > which
> > > > > > > will lead to another disaster sooner or later. No new regulations
> > > > have
> > > > > > > been implemented, no major change in oversight, and the wealth is
> > > > even
> > > > > > > more consolidated then before. In fact 3 of every $10 invested in
> > > > > > > banks or securities in this nation are held in one of 4 very
> > large,
> > > > > > > very risky institutions.
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> > > > > > > |_D Allan
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> > > > > > > Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.
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> > > |_D Allan
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