Yes- I heard. It can be risky not reading off a monitor, can't it? :-)
Turkey's getting feisty re Syria which will pull in Iran.
On Jul 30, 11:41 am, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Well Rigsy
> Listen to Romney the other day,,, well i do not know if you hard
> his because it was in Israel.. hat to say it if he gets elected the US is
> into another war this time with Iran.... I know you dis agree with me.
> On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 4:56 PM, rigsy03 <rigs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Let's not argue about politics- it's like arguing about nationality or
> > religion= an endless loop. Besides, either party in the USA is more
> > alike than different in a real sense of impact upon the individual-
> > for instance, waste, debt and extraction of taxes plus snarl of
> > controls and regulations. Consider that most immigrants came to
> > America for a chance to do what was impossible in their ancestral
> > homeland- own property/business and construct a new social order based
> > on wealth rather than aristocratic ancestry, however they tried to
> > emulate the aristocrats in life style and a closed "400"- now
> > shattered by celebrities/nouveau riche. Not sure we really own
> > anything anymore- free and clear- as taxes resemble rent rather than
> > ownership. Larry Sommers (sp?) now proposes equality of opportunity
> > but says little about sweat and talent- nothing new as America was
> > founded on the principle of opportunity, wasn't it? Or did it morph
> > into opportunism which must be corrected?
> > On Jul 29, 12:54 am, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Rigsy I did not write the piece.... I was looking at the different
> > > political groups.. this showed up with a note that it was not to be
> > > archived thought it was interesting so I passed it on.
> > > The problem wit your blame game theory is all the piece did was put the
> > > blame where it belonged..
> > > Yes Rigsy.. tricked into spending,, well let us then look at a very
> > > recent times,, like the Iraq war.. the American people were "TRICKED"
> > into
> > > it buy the political parties they were lied to about the chemical
> > weapons
> > > and the nuclear weapons,,
> > > What you are saying is the American people jumped into this war and the
> > > cost of trillions of Dollars well over a 1/3 million needless deaths..
> > Get
> > > real Rigsy and take off the blinders,, The American People were conned
> > by
> > > slick talking hucksters and are trying to be set up again by another
> > slick
> > > talking Huckster..
> > > Allan
> > > On Jul 28, 2012 10:09 PM, "rigsy03" <rigs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > Wasn't the socialism of FDR saved by WWII?//Consumers and companies
> > > > are not going to be tricked into spending until they find out what's
> > > > going to happen to taxes, inflation, Europe, the Muddle East, oil,
> > > > crops>dust bowl?, etc.//Really Allan, the blame game of the extreme
> > > > fringes of Reps and Dems is pathetic.
> > > > On Jul 28, 12:29 pm, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > I was looking through the groups and found this on a republican party
> > > > group
> > > > > slated to be removed in 6 days and not to be archived.. I did not
> > right
> > > > > this.
> > > > > Allan
> > > > > Could that be because of the near total collapse of the national
> > > > > economy, the loss of 40% of the middle class wealth, the attacks on
> > > > > women, workers, elderly by the GOP since the late 80's?
> > > > > >==============================================
> > > > > THE BUSH ECONOMIC DISASTER
> > > > > Perhaps it is a little unfair to George W. Bush to name it that,
> > > > > perhaps a more accurate term would be the Reagan/Bush Economic
> > > > > Disaster. Though the damage all came to a head this day one year ago,
> > > > > it was set in place by the bill of goods sold to the American People
> > > > > by smooth talking right wing pitch man Ronald Reagan in 1980.
> > > > > Reaganomics once refereed to as "voodoo economics" by George H. W.
> > > > > Bush was put in place that eventually lead to the disaster of last
> > > > > year.
> > > > > The Republicans sold the American people on a concept that if you
> > take
> > > > > away all regulations, all responsibility and all oversight, the
> > market
> > > > > will protect us naturally. That if you make the rich wealthier, the
> > > > > benefits will trickle down to the rest of the nation. What happened
> > > > > instead is the rich did indeed get richer. Meanwhile the numbers of
> > > > > the poor increased, and the middle class shrunk. For the first time
> > in
> > > > > our nations history average incomes went down yet the wealth of he
> > > > > nation was concentrated in fewer and fewer people's pockets. To
> > > > > further complete the redistribution of wealth, those who's greed and
> > > > > irresponsible behavior got rich, also were given tax breaks. The
> > > > > burden increased again on the poor and middle class.
> > > > > Then came George W. Bush. Not only did he continue the Reaganomics
> > > > > policies but added to them. He passed laws to protect credit card
> > > > > companies from its own customers allowing them unfettered control
> > over
> > > > > interest rates, fees and collections. The Bush Administration then
> > > > > took away the teeth of the bankruptcy protection laws making it
> > harder
> > > > > for the middle class who came upon hard times to recover. Then the
> > > > > death blow, George W Bush and a Republican Congress for 6 out of his
> > 8
> > > > > years in office took our budget from a surplus to a 17 trillion
> > > > > deficit. Throwing away money on a war of choice, and more tax cuts
> > for
> > > > > the wealthy again leaving 95% of Americans behind.
> > > > > Jobs left, opportunity left, false wealth exploded, risk exploded,
> > > > > oversight and regulation was non existent. And as always happens
> > > > > sooner or later when irresponsible behavior rules it came time to pay
> > > > > the piper. So one year ago that was clearly evident to all with the
> > > > > collapse of Lehman Brothers. \line\line So what has happened in the
> > > > > year since. Well good news and bad news. George W. Bush is out of
> > > > > office and our new President Barack Obama, took quick and decisive
> > > > > action to stop the bleeding. Many banks were saved, The stock market
> > > > > had recovered 50% of its losses since last September. The amount of
> > > > > job loss has been reduced. An auto industry who's collapse would have
> > > > > cost millions more jobs was averted. Home sales are up, home values
> > > > > are up. Cash for Clunkers gave a huge shot in the arm to the auto
> > > > > industry. Finally the middle class got a tax cut.
> > > > > But now the bad news. The lack of rules and oversight left over from
> > > > > the Reagan/Bush economic voodoo has not been corrected. Though we put
> > > > > some oil in the car to prevent the blowing of the engine at the last
> > > > > minute, we continue to drive and treat the engine the same way which
> > > > > will lead to another disaster sooner or later. No new regulations
> > have
> > > > > been implemented, no major change in oversight, and the wealth is
> > even
> > > > > more consolidated then before. In fact 3 of every $10 invested in
> > > > > banks or securities in this nation are held in one of 4 very large,
> > > > > very risky institutions.
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> > > > > |_D Allan
> > > > > Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.
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> |_D Allan
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