Monday, July 30, 2012

Re: Mind's Eye Re: Politics

Well Rigsy
Listen to Romney the other day,,,  well i do not know if you hard his because it was in Israel..  hat to say it if he gets elected the US is into another war   this time with Iran....  I know you dis agree with me.
Allan

On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 4:56 PM, rigsy03 <rigsy03@yahoo.com> wrote:
Let's not argue about politics- it's like arguing about nationality or
religion= an endless loop. Besides, either party in the USA is more
alike than different in a real sense of impact upon the individual-
for instance, waste, debt and extraction of taxes plus snarl of
controls and regulations. Consider that most immigrants came to
America for a chance to do what was impossible in their ancestral
homeland- own property/business and construct a new social order based
on wealth rather than aristocratic ancestry, however they tried to
emulate the aristocrats in life style and a closed "400"- now
shattered by celebrities/nouveau riche. Not sure we really own
anything anymore- free and clear- as taxes resemble rent rather than
ownership. Larry Sommers (sp?) now proposes equality of opportunity
but says little about sweat and talent- nothing new as America was
founded on the principle of opportunity, wasn't it? Or did it morph
into opportunism which must be corrected?

On Jul 29, 12:54 am, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Rigsy  I did not write the piece....   I was looking at the different
> political groups.. this showed up with a note that it was not to be
> archived  thought it was interesting so I passed it on.
>
> The problem wit your blame game theory is all the piece did was put the
> blame where it belonged..
>
> Yes Rigsy..  tricked into spending,,  well let us then look at a very
> recent times,, like the Iraq war.. the American people were "TRICKED" into
> it buy the political parties  they were lied to about the chemical weapons
> and the nuclear weapons,,
>
> What you are saying is the American people jumped into this war and the
> cost of trillions of Dollars well over a 1/3 million needless deaths..  Get
> real Rigsy and take off the blinders,,  The American People were conned by
> slick talking hucksters and are trying to be set up again by another slick
> talking Huckster..
> Allan
> On Jul 28, 2012 10:09 PM, "rigsy03" <rigs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Wasn't the socialism of FDR saved by WWII?//Consumers and companies
> > are not going to be tricked into spending until they find out what's
> > going to happen to taxes, inflation, Europe, the Muddle East, oil,
> > crops>dust bowl?, etc.//Really Allan, the blame game of the extreme
> > fringes of Reps and Dems is pathetic.
>
> > On Jul 28, 12:29 pm, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I was looking through the groups and found this on a republican party
> > group
> > > slated to be removed in 6 days and not to be archived..   I did not right
> > > this.
> > > Allan
>
> > > Could that be because of the near total collapse of the national
> > > economy, the loss of 40% of the middle class wealth, the attacks on
> > > women, workers, elderly by the GOP since the late 80's?
>
> > > >==============================================
>
> > > THE BUSH ECONOMIC DISASTER
>
> > >  Perhaps it is a little unfair to George W. Bush to name it that,
> > > perhaps a more accurate term would be the Reagan/Bush Economic
> > > Disaster. Though the damage all came to a head this day one year ago,
> > > it was set in place by the bill of goods sold to the American People
> > > by smooth talking right wing pitch man Ronald Reagan in 1980.
> > > Reaganomics once refereed to as "voodoo economics" by George H. W.
> > > Bush was put in place that eventually lead to the disaster of last
> > > year.
>
> > > The Republicans sold the American people on a concept that if you take
> > > away all regulations, all responsibility and all oversight, the market
> > > will protect us naturally. That if you make the rich wealthier, the
> > > benefits will trickle down to the rest of the nation. What happened
> > > instead is the rich did indeed get richer. Meanwhile the numbers of
> > > the poor increased, and the middle class shrunk. For the first time in
> > > our nations history average incomes went down yet the wealth of he
> > > nation was concentrated in fewer and fewer people's pockets. To
> > > further complete the redistribution of wealth, those who's greed and
> > > irresponsible behavior got rich, also were given tax breaks. The
> > > burden increased again on the poor and middle class.
>
> > > Then came George W. Bush. Not only did he continue the Reaganomics
> > > policies but added to them. He passed laws to protect credit card
> > > companies from its own customers allowing them unfettered control over
> > > interest rates, fees and collections. The Bush Administration then
> > > took away the teeth of the bankruptcy protection laws making it harder
> > > for the middle class who came upon hard times to recover. Then the
> > > death blow, George W Bush and a Republican Congress for 6 out of his 8
> > > years in office took our budget from a surplus to a 17 trillion
> > > deficit. Throwing away money on a war of choice, and more tax cuts for
> > > the wealthy again leaving 95% of Americans behind.
>
> > > Jobs left, opportunity left, false wealth exploded, risk exploded,
> > > oversight and regulation was non existent. And as always happens
> > > sooner or later when irresponsible behavior rules it came time to pay
> > > the piper. So one year ago that was clearly evident to all with the
> > > collapse of Lehman Brothers. \line\line So what has happened in the
> > > year since. Well good news and bad news. George W. Bush is out of
> > > office and our new President Barack Obama, took quick and decisive
> > > action to stop the bleeding. Many banks were saved, The stock market
> > > had recovered 50% of its losses since last September. The amount of
> > > job loss has been reduced. An auto industry who's collapse would have
> > > cost millions more jobs was averted. Home sales are up, home values
> > > are up. Cash for Clunkers gave a huge shot in the arm to the auto
> > > industry. Finally the middle class got a tax cut.
>
> > > But now the bad news. The lack of rules and oversight left over from
> > > the Reagan/Bush economic voodoo has not been corrected. Though we put
> > > some oil in the car to prevent the blowing of the engine at the last
> > > minute, we continue to drive and treat the engine the same way which
> > > will lead to another disaster sooner or later. No new regulations have
> > > been implemented, no major change in oversight, and the wealth is even
> > > more consolidated then before. In fact 3 of every $10 invested in
> > > banks or securities in this nation are held in one of 4 very large,
> > > very risky institutions.
>
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> > > |_D Allan
>
> > > Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.
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