I don't know where the new google group's view is.
On Oct 1, 4:45 pm, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> It's all been there in new google groups' view. Have a look, this is what it
> looks like:
>
> <https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-TnwAAMF--aU/Tgbi5Mt75MI/AAAAAAAAAj...>
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> Your moderators are Chris, ornamentalmind, and Molly. None of us share the
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>
> On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 8:31 PM, Molly <mollyb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I just thought that SOME guidelines should be posted. No one yet has
> > been able or willing to tell me how to make them a top post with the
> > little push pin. They should be revised, I am sure. But before that,
> > at least posted.
>
> > On Oct 1, 10:56 am, Chris Jenkins <digitalprecip...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > No, that I removed myself from the Mods group, and thus, the listing
> > should
> > > be updated. :)
>
> > > On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 10:54 AM, Vam <atewari2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Hell, Chris, such brevity... !
> > > > Which is correct - my impression being a figment or as Molly's
> > > > stated ?
>
> > > > On Oct 1, 7:40 pm, Chris Jenkins <digitalprecip...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > That's correct, Vam.
>
> > > > > On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 10:23 AM, Vam <atewari2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > " Your moderators are Chris, ornamentalmind, and Molly."
>
> > > > > > Posts elsewhere gave me the impression that Neil has joined the
> > ranks
> > > > > > and Chris has refused to be redrawn
>
> ...
>
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