Monday, August 1, 2011

Re: [Mind's Eye] Re: Worship

Great,, now how do we expand them?

Allan

On 31 jul. 2011, at 10:03, paradox <eadoherty@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I do not doubt for one moment that it is, Allan; i have had similar
> experiences on quite a number of occasions myself. I asked the
> question to get a holistic view of the snapshot of time; i ask myself
> the same question of my experiences too.
>
>
>
> On Jul 30, 7:42 pm, Allan Heretic <dehere...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Paradox. You are not imagining, it is very real, you should try it someday.
>> Allan
>>
>> On 29 jul. 2011, at 22:35, Jo <jojocasame...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> It wasn't meant to remind anything to anyone. I was only sharing my
>>> experience. I'm sorry if you found it too rudimentary.
>>
>>> On Jul 29, 1:45 pm, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> You pray before the meals? Yes, that's a good reminder.
>>
>>>> On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 4:37 PM, Jo <jojocasame...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> There have been times in my life when every fiber of my being felt
>>>>> open and aware of everything in my surroundings, their purpose and
>>>>> origins. Aware of people and their complexities. When everything
>>>>> suddenly made sense and I felt as if I were tapped into.....
>>>>> something. The source? The Universe? God? I don't know. I just know
>>>>> that these moments don't last near as long as I would like. I wish I
>>>>> could make them happen more often but I can't. And I don't feel that
>>>>> there is a Will behind this source. The only Will I sense is my own.
>>>>> So I'm very thankful to what ever it is that powers my being. I make
>>>>> it a point to express my gratitude several times a day.
>>
>>>>> On Jul 28, 4:50 pm, paradox <eadohe...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Interesting Jo; how do you imagine our connection to this higher
>>>>>> power?
>>
>>>>>> On Jul 28, 5:53 pm, Jo <jojocasame...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>>>> We never went church while I was growing up. However, I do believe
>>>>>>> that a higher power does exist. I also believe that we are somehow
>>>>>>> connected to it. Worship for me has always been about giving thanks
>>>>>>> and counting my blessings.
>>
>>>>>>> On Jul 27, 8:25 pm, RP Singh <123...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>> If we are completely bound by the will of God it follows that
>>>>>>>> everything is done by God , and hence it is God who would be
>>>>>>>> worshiping God which to me appears ridiculous. If you believe
>>>>> yourself
>>>>>>>> to be an emanation of God and completely controlled by Him it would
>>>>> be
>>>>>>>> lack of wisdom to worship Him. God is our innermost being and is not
>>>>>>>> separate from us , but you can only worship someone separate from you
>>>>>>>> which is inconsistent with our belief that God is our essence. Either
>>>>>>>> believe God to be separate from you , in which case it would be
>>>>> proper
>>>>>>>> to worship Him like loving someone , or believe Him to be your Being
>>>>>>>> and hence act with an attitude of equality to all and looking at
>>>>>>>> everyone animate or inanimate with an equal eye. As for reaching a
>>>>>>>> state of calmness and peace I am far from it but it is my resolve to
>>>>>>>> be so.
>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 3:59 AM, Menfranco Laws <menfra...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I see what you mean and I believe that you have reached a stage of
>>>>>>>>> calmness and peace, otherwise you would not have written what you
>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>> written about we all being part of God in this thread. But I would
>>>>>>>>> like to ask you a question to your statement where you say that
>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>> is no wisdom in worshipping our creator; my objection to that is
>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> I believe that man needs to pray God, so that they may feel
>>>>> protected
>>>>>>>>> from God; I believe that it is one of the needs and the reason why
>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>> have religions?
>>
>>>>>>>>> On Jul 26, 4:35 pm, RP Singh <123...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> I do not say that I have reached a peaceful state , I only say
>>>>> that on
>>>>>>>>>> gaining knowledge of the Truth one should strive to reach a state
>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>> calmness and peace. By Knowledge I mean a logical conclusion about
>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> nature of Reality and not any transcendental experience.
>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 5:00 AM, Menfranco Laws <
>>>>> menfra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, RP Singh; These are indeed words of wisdom when you say:
>>>>> What I
>>>>>>>>>>> feel, think and do is totally bound by the spirit within me and
>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> same is true for everyone else; but then, you assume that you
>>>>> are part
>>>>>>>>>>> of God and therefore everybody should be or feel that they are
>>>>> part of
>>>>>>>>>>> God, so in reality you are saying that God is pandemic in nature
>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> we live within God life force, am I right?
>>>>>>>>>>> But, I have to say that not everybody has reached this peaceful
>>>>>>>>>>> feeling within them selves that you have achieved, I believe
>>>>> that you
>>>>>>>>>>> are one of the few that has this feeling about being part of God
>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> you are blessed, the rest of us just think that we may not be
>>>>> worthy
>>>>>>>>>>> enough of being part of God, therefore during our lives we are
>>>>> trying
>>>>>>>>>>> to achieve what you have achieved for yourself and we hope to
>>>>>>>>>>> understand you fully when we reach our goal.
>>>>>>>>>>> I wish you all the best
>>>>>>>>>>> Menfranco
>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 24, 6:25 am, RP Singh <123...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> What I feel , think and do is totally bound by the spirit
>>>>> within me
>>>>>>>>>>>> and the same is true for everyone else. So , if I think of God
>>>>>>>>>>>> separate from me I am thinking wrongly ; as our innermost being
>>>>> is the
>>>>>>>>>>>> same in all and all of us follow his dictates totally there is
>>>>> no
>>>>>>>>>>>> wisdom in worshiping our creator as albeit we are Him. It is
>>>>>>>>>>>> ignorance to worship yourself. God is in all and it is God who
>>>>> does
>>>>>>>>>>>> everything as all our bound totally by Him. We should have a
>>>>> feeling
>>>>>>>>>>>> of love for all as essentially we are one and not harbour
>>>>> enemity for
>>>>>>>>>>>> those of us who are ignorant of the Truth and enjoy hurting
>>>>> others.
>>>>>>>>>>>> When a person knows that all are One then he attains a state of
>>>>>>>>>>>> calmness and if not he should try to achieve that peaceful
>>>>> state. But
>>>>>>>>>>>> of course we cannot cut the ties that bind us through this body
>>>>> and
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