[Mind's Eye] Re: how does our sub-conscious works?

Like! Thanks OM :)

On Jul 20, 5:19 am, ornamentalmind <ornsmindseyes...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> For the few from different eras and cultures, here is Peggy's original
> "Fever"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGb5IweiYG8
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> On Jul 19, 6:39 pm, rigsy03 <rigs...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > I was happy to find Peggy Lee recorded this song though I haven't
> > heard it- I admired her voice along with Ella Fitzgerald's. This would
> > be a great day for Lee's "Fever". We have a heat index of 113 F.!!!
> > Anyway, I have a pretty good memory of lyrics as mother wasn't a
> > storybook reader and the radio and 78 rpm records were my nursery
> > songs and stories until the nuns read to us or I could read on my own.
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> > On Jul 17, 1:18 pm, paradox <eadohe...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> > > Phew; got so caught up in your ballad, i was just about to singalong,
> > > caught myself just in time. Visions of my daughter's animated
> > > exlamation..."Yes! I knew it! I told you so!" Lol.
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> > > The admiration's mutual...what?? That does't sound right...? You know
> > > what i mean...: i think i need a lie down....lol.
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> > > On Jul 17, 1:30 pm, rigsy03 <rigs...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > I can admire men and still not want to be one! No, paradox, "I enjoy
> > > > being a girl..." (song)
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> > > > On Jul 16, 7:29 am, paradox <eadohe...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > You dont know what you're missing, rigsy! lol.
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> > > > > On Jul 16, 12:53 pm, rigsy03 <rigs...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > I could never be a man- in body form or behavior. Thank you, Lord, for
> > > > > > allowing me to be a female!!! :-)
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> > > > > > On Jul 15, 1:41 pm, paradox <eadohe...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > > I have quite some considerable experience of the emotional
> > > > > > > responsiveness of the fairer sex, rigsy :) Personally, i think the
> > > > > > > gender difference, if there is one, is more emotional maturity and
> > > > > > > honesty than anything "structural.
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> > > > > > > On Jul 15, 12:04 pm, rigsy03 <rigs...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > Thank you, Tony and Paradox.
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> > > > > > > > Except we can clean up our hard drive!
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> > > > > > > > Maybe I should have said "reactions" rather than moods- esp. since
> > > > > > > > females have the rep of being moody creatures. I'm not sure if it is
> > > > > > > > memory or the sc that is triggered by irrational associations.
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> > > > > > > > On Jul 15, 3:22 am, paradox <eadohe...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > Not as familiar with the terrain regarding imagination and creativity,
> > > > > > > > > rigsy; but some thoughts; imagination probably employs the same object
> > > > > > > > > representation and manipulation routines as event "simulation",
> > > > > > > > > certainly occupies the same higher order region; the process is just
> > > > > > > > > less well tethered; an analogy that comes to mind is that of the rider
> > > > > > > > > whose handling on the reins becomes more adept the more confident he/
> > > > > > > > > she becomes, and the more conditioned the horse gets over time.
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> > > > > > > > > Creativity is more difficult to pin down; my intuitive sense is that
> > > > > > > > > it's probably defined in the versatility of transition of isomorphic
> > > > > > > > > brain "states"; so its not so much a "discrete" attribute, but more a
> > > > > > > > > "bell curve" function.
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> > > > > > > > > Difficult to say about unexplained moods; could be the result of
> > > > > > > > > chemical or homeostatic imbalances, tensions, unresolved mental
> > > > > > > > > phenomena, or any of a long list of things really; what do you think?
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> > > > > > > > > On Jul 14, 12:46 pm, rigsy03 <rigs...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > > Yes- that is too technical for me. :-) I see the sc as the hidden
> > > > > > > > > > currents of a river- at least this morning that's my view. Where do
> > > > > > > > > > you think imagination and creativity spring from? Or unexplainable
> > > > > > > > > > moods? Or the irrational? Don't be too technical, please.
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> > > > > > > > > > On Jul 14, 3:36 am, paradox <eadohe...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > > > Interesting psychoanalytic approach; i'm sort of a little closer to
> > > > > > > > > > > the "technical" school; seems to me that dreams and phantasies are
> > > > > > > > > > > pretty much the same "stuff" as conscious thought, but without the
> > > > > > > > > > > coherence, constraints, and "echolocation" of input, cognition,  and
> > > > > > > > > > > the autobiographical self; in that sense, we think (neural mapping)
> > > > > > > > > > > pretty much 24/7, conscious, subconscious, or otherwise; it's just so
> > > > > > > > > > > much more elegant when we're conscious, or daydreaming, curiously :).
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> > > > > > > > > > > Re the "great conductor"; in this great cauldron of distributed
> > > > > > > > > > > mapping, something has to "direct" and prioritise attention; that's
> > > > > > > > > > > the job of dispositional affect (value), or emotion, through amygdala,
> > > > > > > > > > > hippocampus, and associated wide area networks. Antonio Damasio has
> > > > > > > > > > > produced some very interesting, very readable and easily accessible
> > > > > > > > > > > works in this area.
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> > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 13, 1:51 pm, rigsy03 <rigs...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > > > > The "great conductor" to where? The sc may color our thoughts and
> > > > > > > > > > > > actions but I have a problem giving it a thought process similar to
> > > > > > > > > > > > the ego or super-ego. The fact that we cannot control our sc makes us
> > > > > > > > > > > > want to control it- it can be dangerous or embarassing or distracting,
> > > > > > > > > > > > for instance. I do think it adds a dramatic complexity to our thoughts
> > > > > > > > > > > > and actions- esp. those "Freudian slips"! :-) Another possibilty is
> > > > > > > > > > > > that the sc is a warehouse for our unresolved selves that pitch and
> > > > > > > > > > > > twist in our minds during dreams or daydreams and sometimes influence
> > > > > > > > > > > > solutions by interrupting logic, problem solving, comprehension or
> > > > > > > > > > > > relationships. It may also serve the purpose of keeping us honest-
> > > > > > > > > > > > somehow the mind has to find a balance- "acting as if" only goes so
> > > > > > > > > > > > far.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 13, 5:13 am, paradox <eadohe...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Mando, dont forget that our thoughts are also "merely things", and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > our sub-conscious also "thinks"; "emotion" is the great conductor.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 12, 2:18 pm, Mando <richsu...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > how are we easily swayed from our thought by merely things? is that
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