like 2 ice cubes melting next to eachother become one puddle ? u will
have no '' self '' at all ?
gabbydott wrote:
> I know it isn't. This was a distractor from the preceeding "they are telling
> you to find", which I thereby criticized.
>
> On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 1:02 PM, leerevdouglas@googlemail.com <
> lee@rdfmedia.com> wrote:
>
> > Rise back to Godstate?
> >
> > That is not my belife Gabs, rather shed ourselves of the illusion that
> > we are seperated from God. As I often say God is immenent throughout
> > the creation, there exist not one iota of matter that is not imbued
> > with the spirit of God.
> >
> > On May 26, 6:31 pm, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Same idea differant words.
> > >
> > > Hahaha, that's exactly the trick. That's when God falls to become
> > Lucifer.
> > > It's the finding that they are telling you you need to do in order to
> > rise
> > > back to Godstate. This is not what I understand RP says.
> > >
> > > On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 1:06 PM, leerevdoug...@googlemail.com <
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > l...@rdfmedia.com> wrote:
> > > > As I say I fail to see the differance between putting this way, or
> > > > RP's way or my way. Same idea differant words.
> > >
> > > > RP says that God is imminent but this does not mean that I am God, and
> > > > I agree with him, but I'm sure he'll agree that without finding God
> > > > within, you stand no chance in finding God without.
> > >
> > > > It is a bold statement, but I honestly do try to see God in all
> > > > things, yep me included, and you too.
> > >
> > > > Haha but of course it is hard to find God in some people.
> > >
> > > > On May 26, 10:46 am, the taoist shaman <bryan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> lee , o.r. , i think iknow what r.p. is getting at , forget the
> > > >> ocean , think of the stars , many different stars ( white red blue
> > > >> giant dwarf ect ) even the similar stars are different from each
> > > >> other , but they are part of the same whole , the galaxy , and though
> > > >> each galaxy is similar , and yet different , they are part of the same
> > > >> whole , the universe ....... if i were a glass of water id be a square
> > > >> glass with dull edges , ha ... ha .... :[
> > >
> > > >> leerevdoug...@googlemail.com wrote:
> > > >> > I fail to see the differance?
> > >
> > > >> > On May 26, 7:59 am, RP Singh <123...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> > > Instead of considering ourselves to be parts of the Whole , it
> > would
> > > >> > > be better in my opinion to consider ourselves differing images of
> > the
> > > >> > > Absolute in vessels of differing make and shape. Water in many
> > > vessels
> > > >> > > of differing sizes and shapes in a ocean is the same , but it is
> > not
> > > a
> > > >> > > part of the ocean --it is actually the ocean. The illusion is the
> > > >> > > vessel and not the water.
> > >
> > > >> > > On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 10:53 AM, ornamentalmind
> > >
> > > >> > > <ornsmindseyes...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > >> > > > While I greatly appreciate emanationism on many levels, to
> > ignore
> > > the
> > > >> > > > consubstantial aspect of 'the many' simply ignores the
> > experience
> > > of
> > > >> > > > many humans. We have the ability to think and by thinking break
> > > down
> > > >> > > > 'the one' into its component parts (as a thought, not an
> > > actuality).
> > >
> > > >> > > >http://www.iep.utm.edu/emanatio/
> > >
> > > >> > > > On May 25, 8:50 pm, RP Singh <123...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> > > >> If we think that we are part of the " Whole " we are sort of
> > > dividing
> > > >> > > >> up God. He then is no longer an entity but a composite of
> > parts.
> > > The
> > > >> > > >> truth is that we are not parts but emanations which make His
> > > existence
> > > >> > > >> identifiable to our understanding.
> > > >> > > >> The reflection of the sun is a proof of the sun ;similarly the
> > > world
> > > >> > > >> is a proof of the Self.
> > >
> > > >> > > >> On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 8:17 AM, Ash <ashkas...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > >> > > >> > "Our consciousness makes us think that we are special , far
> > > removed from
> > > >> > > >> > matter , but in reality we are mortal and it is the One
> > Spirit
> > > in all that
> > > >> > > >> > is immortal. "
> > > >> > > >> > I don't think that this must necessarily be the whole truth.
> > > What if one
> > > >> > > >> > sees that all things are a part of the whole, that is the
> > world
> > > and/or
> > > >> > > >> > nature's way, and we perceive diverse phenomena by our
> > natures
> > > inextricably?
> > >
> > > >> > > >> > I find it interesting that you would say the reflection of
> > the
> > > sun in a
> > > >> > > >> > puddle is not the sun, what else is the sun but the forces of
> > > nature which
> > > >> > > >> > are the same as in the puddle? Our focus may be pointed at a
> > > less brilliant
> > > >> > > >> > and direct portion in comparison to the sun but it is shining
> > > through
> > > >> > > >> > nonetheless in everything if you know how or where to look.
> > >
> > > >> > > >> > On 5/19/2011 10:04 AM, RP Singh wrote:
> > >
> > > >> > > >> >> It is not a matter of perspective but the very nature of
> > > things. The
> > > >> > > >> >> world is dualistic by nature and God is Non-Dual.The world
> > > changes
> > > >> > > >> >> over time and is never in a constant state , whereas God
> > > remains the
> > > >> > > >> >> same always and is unborn , primeaval and
> > indestructible--the
> > > same
> > > >> > > >> >> cannot be said of the world. It is so easy to say that I am
> > the
> > > One ,
> > > >> > > >> >> but when a needle pricks you you grimace , how can you be
> > the "
> > > One "
> > > >> > > >> >> when you feel pleasure and pain , happy and depressed. Our
> > > >> > > >> >> consciousness makes us think that we are special , far
> > removed
> > > from
> > > >> > > >> >> matter , but in reality we are mortal and it is the One
> > Spirit
> > > in all
> > > >> > > >> >> that is immortal.
> > >
> > > >> > > >> >> On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 4:39 PM, Molly<mollyb...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >> > > >> >>> How is it possible, from a non dual perspective, to
> > perceive
> > > the world
> > > >> > > >> >>> as dualistic in nature, and thus an illusion (and separate
> > > from
> > > >> > > >> >>> self)? By definition, this view would remain dualistic. I
> > do
> > > think it
> > > >> > > >> >>> true that how we view the world forms our experience. From
> > a
> > > >> > > >> >>> dualistic view, some are right, some are wrong. From a non
> > > dual view,
> > > >> > > >> >>> all views are the One/many paradox that is One. How we
> > view
> > > (and
> > > >> > > >> >>> experience) birth and death changes as we change. From a
> > non
> > > dual
> > > >> > > >> >>> perspective, they are only states of transformation and not
> > a
> > > >> > > >> >>> beginning or end.
> > >
> > > >> > > >> >>> On May 17, 2:07 pm, RP Singh<123...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >> > > >> >>>> In duality there is the relationship of the observer and
> > the
> > > observed
> > > >> > > >> >>>> , the knower and the known , that is , there are two. In
> > > Non-Duality
> > > >> > > >> >>>> there is only One and the world which is dualistic in
> > nature
> > > , remains
> > > >> > > >> >>>> what it is , just an illusion - i.e. subject to birth and
> > > death. God
> > > >> > > >> >>>> ,Reality or Atman is Non-Dual and duality is just its
> > >
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