[Mind's Eye] Re: Non-Duality

I fail to see the differance?

On May 26, 7:59 am, RP Singh <123...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Instead of considering ourselves to be parts of the Whole , it would
> be better in my opinion to consider ourselves differing images of the
> Absolute in vessels of differing make and shape. Water in many vessels
> of differing sizes and shapes in a ocean is the same , but it is not a
> part of the ocean --it is actually the ocean. The illusion is the
> vessel and not the water.
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> On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 10:53 AM, ornamentalmind
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> <ornsmindseyes...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > While I greatly appreciate emanationism on many levels, to ignore the
> > consubstantial aspect of 'the many' simply ignores the experience of
> > many humans. We have the ability to think and by thinking break down
> > 'the one' into its component parts (as a thought, not an actuality).
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> >http://www.iep.utm.edu/emanatio/
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> > On May 25, 8:50 pm, RP Singh <123...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> If we think that we are part of the " Whole " we are sort of dividing
> >> up God. He then is no longer an entity but a composite of parts. The
> >> truth is that we are not parts but emanations which make His existence
> >> identifiable to our understanding.
> >> The reflection of the sun is a proof of the sun ;similarly the world
> >> is a proof of the Self.
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> >> On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 8:17 AM, Ash <ashkas...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > "Our consciousness makes us think that we are special , far removed from
> >> > matter , but in reality we are mortal and it is the One Spirit in all that
> >> > is immortal. "
> >> > I don't think that this must necessarily be the whole truth. What if one
> >> > sees that all things are a part of the whole, that is the world and/or
> >> > nature's way, and we perceive diverse phenomena by our natures inextricably?
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> >> > I find it interesting that you would say the reflection of the sun in a
> >> > puddle is not the sun, what else is the sun but the forces of nature which
> >> > are the same as in the puddle? Our focus may be pointed at a less brilliant
> >> > and direct portion in comparison to the sun but it is shining through
> >> > nonetheless in everything if you know how or where to look.
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> >> > On 5/19/2011 10:04 AM, RP Singh wrote:
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> >> >> It is not a matter of perspective but the very nature of things. The
> >> >> world is dualistic by nature and God is Non-Dual.The world changes
> >> >> over time and is never in a constant state , whereas God remains the
> >> >> same always and is unborn , primeaval and indestructible--the same
> >> >> cannot be said of the world. It is so easy to say that I am the One ,
> >> >> but when a needle pricks you you grimace , how can you be the " One "
> >> >> when you feel pleasure and pain , happy and depressed. Our
> >> >> consciousness makes us think that we are special , far removed from
> >> >> matter , but in reality we are mortal and it is the One Spirit in all
> >> >> that is immortal.
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> >> >> On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 4:39 PM, Molly<mollyb...@gmail.com>  wrote:
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> >> >>> How is it possible, from a non dual perspective, to perceive the world
> >> >>> as dualistic in nature, and thus an illusion (and separate from
> >> >>> self)?  By definition, this view would remain dualistic. I do think it
> >> >>> true that how we view the world forms our experience.  From a
> >> >>> dualistic view, some are right, some are wrong.  From a non dual view,
> >> >>> all views are the One/many paradox that is One.  How we view (and
> >> >>> experience) birth and death changes as we change.  From a non dual
> >> >>> perspective, they are only states of transformation and not a
> >> >>> beginning or end.
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> >> >>> On May 17, 2:07 pm, RP Singh<123...@gmail.com>  wrote:
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> >> >>>> In duality there is the relationship of the observer and the observed
> >> >>>> , the knower and the known , that is , there are two. In Non-Duality
> >> >>>> there is only One and the world which is dualistic in nature , remains
> >> >>>> what it is , just an illusion - i.e. subject to birth and death. God
> >> >>>> ,Reality or Atman is Non-Dual and duality is just its expression.- Hide quoted text -
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