[Mind's Eye] Re: life

There is also the "dry drunk", Allan. The use discontinues but the
personality and soul do not change.

On Mar 31, 1:52 am, allan deheretic <dehere...@gmail.com> wrote:
> If you are going to do it and especially putting your self through the
> process,,  the get maximum benefit  Bryan  All I can say is follow the
> rules,  starting with don't drink or drug. otherwise you will be
> throwing your money away.
> Allan
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> On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 7:35 PM, the taoist shaman <bryan...@gmail.com>wrote:
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> > just because i put my self through drug re hab doesnt make me
> > alcoholic, i can have a few then stop when i want , not EVERYONE has
> > to be sober to be happy. but for some it does seem that way
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> > sobriety is a state of mind not blood
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> > rigsy03 wrote:
> > > It depends on the group. Was in Al-Anon also and believe those mates
> > > are just as screwed up as the user. One is dealing with a system that
> > > affects family, business, etc. and is not an instant cure as there are
> > > usually problems galore left in the wake. There is no "instant
> > > cure"! :-) Plus- there are those you must leave behind- some people
> > > cannot handle sober happiness. :-)
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> > > On Mar 29, 7:55 am, the taoist shaman <bryan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > wasnt trying to bash u , i just got out 3 month volentary inpatent
> > > > rehab , still love smoken-tripping  though , acceptance can be good
> > > > but it can be bad - look at capitalism disscussion - 12 step is good
> > > > for all people
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> > > > allan deheretic wrote:
> > > > > 31 years of sobriety is going to have an influence.  I use it as a
> > reference
> > > > > point,, but it is not the basis of my beliefs it is a reference point
> > for
> > > > > trying to look at things clearly. It is an excellent set of
> > guidelines.
> > > > > Allan
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> > > > > On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 10:37 PM, the taoist shaman <
> > bryan...@gmail.com>wrote:
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> > > > > > allin i thought your thoughts sounded like that of an AA , all in
> > all
> > > > > > good program , you told me to be watchfull of influence by thoughs
> > > > > > with an agenda i tell u the same
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> > > > > > allan deheretic wrote:
> > > > > > > Very good ideas Ash Living a health life style is a good way to
> > live.
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> > > > > > > If you are having problems sorting things out a good set of
> > guidelines is
> > > > > > > the 12 steps of AA..  they are great for sorting anything out.. I
> > know I
> > > > > > > have been sober now for over 31 years.. (writing that it is
> > unbelievable
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > me.. and I have done it. thanks to a whole lot of people who put
> > up my
> > > > > > shit
> > > > > > > and helped me sort it out.)
> > > > > > > Rigs ideas are good.
> > > > > > > Allan
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> > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 3:28 PM, Ash <ashkas...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
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> > > > > > > > Good idea Rigsy, speaking of diet I noticed caffeine has had a
> > large
> > > > > > impact
> > > > > > > > on things (esp. coffee). So today I'll cut the coffee at lunch
> > and from
> > > > > > > > there just green tea and chocolate. :p
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> > > > > > > > You know if I wasn't so damned hardheaded things would be going
> > better.
> > > > > > > > Exercise, eat healthy, stop smoking so much, more family time,
> > etc.
> > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > > all for the advices! :)
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> > > > > > > --
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> > > > > > >   )
> > > > > > > I_D Allan
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> > > > > > > If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
> > > > > > > Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
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> > > > >   )
> > > > > I_D Allan
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> > > > > If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
> > > > > Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,- Hide quoted text -
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> I_D Allan
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