choose not to drink or use drugs.
There was a joke in the '70's and '80's when treatment/AA took off in
profitability/popularity: first the tennis courts, then treatment,
then the divorce court.
Life is a state of mind!
On Mar 30, 12:35 pm, the taoist shaman <bryan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> just because i put my self through drug re hab doesnt make me
> alcoholic, i can have a few then stop when i want , not EVERYONE has
> to be sober to be happy. but for some it does seem that way
>
> sobriety is a state of mind not blood
>
>
>
> rigsy03 wrote:
> > It depends on the group. Was in Al-Anon also and believe those mates
> > are just as screwed up as the user. One is dealing with a system that
> > affects family, business, etc. and is not an instant cure as there are
> > usually problems galore left in the wake. There is no "instant
> > cure"! :-) Plus- there are those you must leave behind- some people
> > cannot handle sober happiness. :-)
>
> > On Mar 29, 7:55 am, the taoist shaman <bryan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > wasnt trying to bash u , i just got out 3 month volentary inpatent
> > > rehab , still love smoken-tripping though , acceptance can be good
> > > but it can be bad - look at capitalism disscussion - 12 step is good
> > > for all people
>
> > > allan deheretic wrote:
> > > > 31 years of sobriety is going to have an influence. I use it as a reference
> > > > point,, but it is not the basis of my beliefs it is a reference point for
> > > > trying to look at things clearly. It is an excellent set of guidelines.
> > > > Allan
>
> > > > On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 10:37 PM, the taoist shaman <bryan...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > > > > allin i thought your thoughts sounded like that of an AA , all in all
> > > > > good program , you told me to be watchfull of influence by thoughs
> > > > > with an agenda i tell u the same
>
> > > > > allan deheretic wrote:
> > > > > > Very good ideas Ash Living a health life style is a good way to live.
>
> > > > > > If you are having problems sorting things out a good set of guidelines is
> > > > > > the 12 steps of AA.. they are great for sorting anything out.. I know I
> > > > > > have been sober now for over 31 years.. (writing that it is unbelievable
> > > > > to
> > > > > > me.. and I have done it. thanks to a whole lot of people who put up my
> > > > > shit
> > > > > > and helped me sort it out.)
> > > > > > Rigs ideas are good.
> > > > > > Allan
>
> > > > > > On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 3:28 PM, Ash <ashkas...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > Good idea Rigsy, speaking of diet I noticed caffeine has had a large
> > > > > impact
> > > > > > > on things (esp. coffee). So today I'll cut the coffee at lunch and from
> > > > > > > there just green tea and chocolate. :p
>
> > > > > > > You know if I wasn't so damned hardheaded things would be going better.
> > > > > > > Exercise, eat healthy, stop smoking so much, more family time, etc.
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > all for the advices! :)
>
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > (
> > > > > > )
> > > > > > I_D Allan
>
> > > > > > If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
> > > > > > Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
>
> > > > --
> > > > (
> > > > )
> > > > I_D Allan
>
> > > > If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
> > > > Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,- Hide quoted text -
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