[Mind's Eye] Re: Raison d'etre - can we find one

Yes but can they be analysed as entities devoid from conciousness.
I think I am losing myself here.
My previous sentence implies that my body owns my brain rather than
vice versa.

Malc

On Mar 31, 9:47 pm, "leerevdoug...@googlemail.com" <l...@rdfmedia.com>
wrote:
> Yess indeed I agre with OM on this one(A rather rare but welcoming
> occourance)
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> Of course Moral values can be analysed, is that not what we are doing
> here?
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> On Mar 31, 7:35 am, malcymo <malc...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > I too believe that virtue and hence correctness are subjective. Also,
> > as in the Taoist tradition morality can be paradoxical. Ayn Rand would
> > disagree and hold that reality exists independent from reality,  I
> > believe that  objectivists believe that moral values can be analysed
> > logically ,,,,,,,, I can't get my head around that!.
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> > On Mar 31, 11:24 am, ornamentalmind <ornsmindseyes...@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
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> > > Even here, the more commonly held notions of 'virtue' differ and are
> > > quite subjective. No, a dictionary most likely won't 'help'; however,
> > > on the off chance that it will...
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> > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtue#Aristotle.27s_virtues
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> > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtue#The_Buddhist_tradition
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> > > etc.....
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> > > On Mar 30, 7:00 am, malcymo <malc...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > Your third answer apeals to me as it involves a decision by you.
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> > > > On Mar 31, 12:13 am, "leerevdoug...@googlemail.com"
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> > > > <l...@rdfmedia.com> wrote:
> > > > > In truth this is what most of us would proably answer.  Myself I
> > > > > choose both my first and my second answer.
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> > > > > On Mar 30, 6:38 am, malcymo <malc...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > I would rather like to think that we can create a point.
> > > > > > Ash seems to have.
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> > > > > > On Mar 29, 10:44 pm, "leerevdoug...@googlemail.com"
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> > > > > > <l...@rdfmedia.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > There are a few answers to this and it depends on your mind set and
> > > > > > > your core beliefs.
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> > > > > > > The obvious answer is God did it.  We are here to go to heaven, or
> > > > > > > reach God, or merge with the God head or what ever the dogma of your
> > > > > > > faith dercess is the porouse.
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> > > > > > > Another answer is that we find meaning in our lives in what makes us
> > > > > > > happy, indeed some would contend that this is the higest moral
> > > > > > > obligation.
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> > > > > > > Yet another answer is all is pointless, there is no point and so do
> > > > > > > what you you like.
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> > > > > > > Take your pick my freind which answer suits you?
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> > > > > > > On Mar 28, 12:34 am, malcymo <malc...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > Raison D'etre
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> > > > > > > > We are genetically successful in that we still exist. Historically our
> > > > > > > > mutations have turned out to be apt for survival.
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> > > > > > > > We have been endowed with the ability to reason and thus question our
> > > > > > > > purpose.
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> > > > > > > > Camus believed that human existence was essentially absurd. As Russell
> > > > > > > > said 'All the labour of the ages, all the devotion, all the
> > > > > > > > inspiration, all the noonday brightness of human genius  are destined
> > > > > > > > to extinction in the vast death of the solar system'. This implies
> > > > > > > > that human endeavour id pointless. As Douglas Adams said the answer to
> > > > > > > > life the universe and existence is 42.
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> > > > > > > > Realisation of this truth could imply that the only logical response
> > > > > > > > is to give up on endeavour, even commit suicide.
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> > > > > > > > However, we do have a short period of life wherein we can experience
> > > > > > > > emotions; happiness, pain etc. Although difficult to explain are real
> > > > > > > > in the sense that we can agree on the pleasure or displeasure that
> > > > > > > > such experiences give us. Likewise we would agree that we would like
> > > > > > > > our short existence to be pleasurable, even for the masochist.
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> > > > > > > > Should we not be looking for the meaning of life; creating a meaning
> > > > > > > > for life; endeavouring to change the human condition and society for
> > > > > > > > the greater benefit of future generations. That one of these
> > > > > > > > generations will be extinguished is of  no importance given the
> > > > > > > > absurdity of existence.
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