Cause and effect is not necessarily what science is all about at the all though it is about identifying different parts and particles often it occured by the cause and effect.
I think that one needs to take in other realities other than the primitive ~ Earth ~ Air ~ Fire ~ Water. We realize because of the "Red Shift" in the observation of light that the physical universe our bodies exist within is expanding.
The confusion for me starts when I ask the question just what is our universe expanding into if nothing exists?
On Sun, 4 Aug 2019, 3:08 AM ashok tewari, <atewari2007@gmail.com> wrote:
The whole of science is about cause and effect with nature of things and material properties in between.
On Saturday, August 3, 2019, Allan H <allanh1946@gmail.com> wrote:Cause and effect is always at play in hindi as dharma and karma.--On Sat, Aug 3, 2019, 01:56 Molly Brogan <mollybrogan@gmail.com> wrote:Seems to me, at some point, the realm of cause and effect is transcended. At that point, I'm with Don.--
On Friday, August 2, 2019 at 5:57:56 AM UTC-4, Allan Heretic wrote:--LOL I some what believe in reincarnation but not as presented by Hinduism. ¿Reincarnation? Is of the 'Soul' which has little to nothing to the physical structure that allows the Soul to exist in the environment that it finds itself in.
This reality as I conceive it is more of a Mandala of the Being of 'God' where everything and more is contained.
Slug well Don if that is what you really want I am guessing you can arrange to be in that existence if that is really want.
allan
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Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Consciousness Is Not Yours, You Are ItsI prefer the idea of oblivion. I don't need to worry about coming back to this ball of suffering and pain. And I know I've had it easy. Karma would have me coming back as a slug or something. No thank you.In fact there is no death, only transformation. When an individual dies the body disintegrates and amalgamates with the five element and the self-sense, the soul, becomes one with Pure Consciousness.For those who believe in rebirth the soul comes back from pure consciousness again and again, taking birth after birth until it's karma is burnt and then achieves Moksha or permanent union with the One.Ultimately, the One alone is the Truth, all else is maya.--On Mon 29 Jul, 2019, 10:52 PM Rajendra Pal Singh, <1234rp@gmail.com> wrote:Consciousness or awareness is a state of the individual, even in deep sleep there isa low level of consciousness. Beyond consciousness is pure consciousness in which there are no attributes, where there is only one and no other, not even the self-sense.On Mon 29 Jul, 2019, 10:40 PM Vam, <atewari2007@gmail.com> wrote:That wasn't the main point of discussion I wished to start with my post. It was that we are not individuals who are conscious but consciousness, the one and the same behind every individual being. The latter just seem different, one from the rest.
Or, is it that I am going too far ?
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