Re: Mind's Eye Re: Delusions

The test of delusion is that you think it is real , if you are doubtful then you don't have it. When a person doesn't believe his thinking to be true he is normal , it is only when abnormal thinking is considered to be real and true then it is delusion.

On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 5:45 AM, archytas <nwterry@gmail.com> wrote:

That could be a true delusion in your case Allan.  In your permanently deluded state you know everything about delusion, but are deluded into thinking you don't.  My recommendations as the therapist you think is your second head are:

1. drop the axe and the gun

2. look in the mirror and ask that guy you see as someone else to fix the injuries if you didn't do 1.

3, get the coffee ready as I'm deluded too and coming round to discuss whether knowing our delusory incompetence puts us on a better footing in recovery than the rest of the group, who are deluded into thinking themselves sane and above this discussion ...

On Saturday, February 7, 2015 at 10:41:24 PM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote:

Delusions is something I have little understanding of..

تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
Évitez; assassiner, le viol et l'esclavage des autres
Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others

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From: archytas <nwterry@gmail.com>
To: minds-eye@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sat, 07 Feb 2015 11:18 PM
Subject: Mind's Eye Re: Delusions

I agree Tony - it's a point missing from the literature.  Joan of Arc, if she was ever real.  Whatever delusion systems are, there are positive and negative sides.  In some models delusion is the correct adaptation to circumstances.  Stimulus is difficult to work out though - hit me with a brick and I might start to produce great sculptures - same for you might stop you.

On Saturday, February 7, 2015 at 9:00:19 PM UTC, facilitator wrote:

Wouldn't a foundation of delusion be part of the brains ability to calculate, predict, surmise and therefore be necessary?  Competitiveness would drive this as well.  Knowing the odds against oneself and under some form of delusion, proceeding.  A team that has no chance of winning, a political campaign, a war?   Delusions are maintained because people have hope beyond reason.  It is a driving factor.  

 

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