Mind's Eye Re: Separatists, separation, independence and freedom

Anyone can separate from a country.  Move to a different one..

On Saturday, August 2, 2014 8:40:32 AM UTC-4, andrew vecsey wrote:

A radical rethink might not be so necessary. Things have gotten too big. Too many are controlled by too few. People are trying to sell us the concept of globalization where a few control all.  I suggest that rather than a radical rethink, we go back to when things were smaller. How do we do that? By separation into smaller parts. By separating ourselves from the greedy few who control us. We can separate ourselves from banks as the bitcoin technology allows us to do just that. We can separate ourselves from the food industry by supporting local farmer products. We can separate ourselves from shopping malls by not buying from them. We can vote with our wallets. We can separate ourselves from the military by refusing to serve and kill our fellow humans (like the Jehovah Witnesses do). We can even separate ourselves from the pharmaceutical industry by living healthy lifestyles. We can separate ourselves from the mass media by not watching their advertisements. It is harder to separate ourselves from governments, which is what I wanted to discuss. Should people living in a part of a country be able to separate themselves from that country if the majority wish to separate without having to fight for their freedom and independence?   In nature, when something like a mountain gets too big, it breaks apart and eventually erodes and gets smaller. 

On Friday, August 1, 2014 10:36:30 PM UTC+2, archytas wrote:

Many converted to Islam after Ottoman invasions.  Advertising is another will-breaker.  The Swiss have better direct democracy.  We elect perverts and socio-paths.  The world is at war. Economics is quasi-religious thievery.  We remain so ignorant that 99 out of 100 have no idea how money is created or by whom.  Time for a radical rethink.

On Wednesday, 30 July 2014 14:10:43 UTC+1, andrew vecsey wrote:

In Swizerland, referendums are preceded by public discussions in the media by interest groups presenting their pro and con view points.  As well each voting ballot comes with a booklet outlining the pro and con views of what is toi be voted. The Republic and Canton of the Jura is one of the cantons of Switzerland created in 1979 after a referendum of the French part of the canton of Bern separating from the Bern canton.

On Tuesday, July 29, 2014 12:17:12 AM UTC+2, Molly wrote:

Would everyone voting have accurate information on the issues?  this would certainly take a great deal of organization.  If the group is ethnocentric or egocentric, chances are the majority rules method would not be a good idea.  In a worldcentric society where members are able to put the good of the group before their own if necessary, it may work, but this is a highly evolved group.  Here in the US, political campaigns count heavily on herd mentality and voters who are not worldly being swayed by negative and inaccurate information.  Hence, the Koch brother's ability to buy election and a congress filled with politicians for hire.  I agree, the ideal is much greater than the practical application.

On Monday, July 28, 2014 9:39:09 AM UTC-4, facilitator wrote:

Majority vote is not often a good idea.  Majority does not always equal justice.  Should the highest number population wise of a religion force others to become that religion?

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