There are a lot of books that I have not read.
The standard english definitions of self just do not fit. Creating a problem because word usage is based off written meaning not a guess as to what they are saying. The idea is to understand what a person is saying, not guessing as to what they mean.
It is not your fault, that people are doing sloppy translations. The language center of my brain does not function as well as it could due to a medical condition so i become very reliant on dictionary meanings to gain understanding,
The ancient books of the Hindu faith are not standard or normal reading all though I did read part of the 1st book of the vedic (My nephew married a Hindi girl ) It was interesting but not my culture. It was very interesting.. but again a cultural thing without the back ground a lot of meaning is lost. I am not a fan of drugs.. that is me but there were a lot of drugs involved which automatically makes it even more difficult reading for me.
To create cross cultural understanding standard meanings have to be available. Lack of cultural understand and assumption of knowledge has to be one of greatest destroyers in the world . .
Allan
A Living Soul
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From: RP Singh <1234rp@gmail.com>
To: Minds Eye <minds-eye@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sat, 19 Jul 2014 6:22 PM
Subject: Re: Mind's Eye organic life
The standard english definitions of self just do not fit. Creating a problem because word usage is based off written meaning not a guess as to what they are saying. The idea is to understand what a person is saying, not guessing as to what they mean.
It is not your fault, that people are doing sloppy translations. The language center of my brain does not function as well as it could due to a medical condition so i become very reliant on dictionary meanings to gain understanding,
The ancient books of the Hindu faith are not standard or normal reading all though I did read part of the 1st book of the vedic (My nephew married a Hindi girl ) It was interesting but not my culture. It was very interesting.. but again a cultural thing without the back ground a lot of meaning is lost. I am not a fan of drugs.. that is me but there were a lot of drugs involved which automatically makes it even more difficult reading for me.
To create cross cultural understanding standard meanings have to be available. Lack of cultural understand and assumption of knowledge has to be one of greatest destroyers in the world . .
Allan
A Living Soul
-----Original Message-----
From: RP Singh <1234rp@gmail.com>
To: Minds Eye <minds-eye@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sat, 19 Jul 2014 6:22 PM
Subject: Re: Mind's Eye organic life
My English is better than my Hindi. I assume that you haven't read English translations of the Upanisads and the Bhagvadagita which explains your misconception about my command over the English language. The word Self is used throughout our ancient books.
On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 9:26 PM, Allan H <allanh1946@gmail.com> wrote:
I know English is not your native language, but the word self does not fit.
SELF
pronunciation
• (IPA): /sɛlf/
pronoun
• (obsolete) Himself, herself, itself, themselves; that specific (person mentioned).
This argument was put forward by the defendant self.
• (commercial) Myself.
I made out a cheque, payable to self, which cheered me up somewhat.
noun (plural selvesselfs)
• The subject of one's own experience of phenomena: perception, emotions, thoughts...
• An individual person as the object of his own reflective consciousness (plural selves).
• (botany) A seedling produced by self-pollination (plural selfs).
translations (individual person as the object of his own reflective consciousness)
• French: soi-même
• German: Selbst
• Italian: stesso
• Russian: сам
verb
• (botany) To fertilise by the same individual; to self-fertilise or self-pollinate.
• (botany) To fertilise by the same strain; to inbreed.
antonyms
• outcross
adjective • (obsolete) same
SELF
noun • Surname
I also know people are terrible at miss using words , as I read the definition i see that it fits in no manner even twisted.
People do compare themselves to be god and may even consider themselves god and say as much, unfortunately i am left wondering about the validity of their opinion.
Now there is a being that includes the totality of everything both time and non-time That to me is a no brainer.
Allan
A Living Soul
-----Original Message-----
From: RP Singh <1234rp@gmail.com>
To: Minds Eye <minds-eye@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sat, 19 Jul 2014 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: Mind's Eye organic lifeIt is not you who are God but the One Spirit inside all that is God. Some people call it the Self , maybe the higher Self but self none the less. I beg to differ as I find individuals to be separate and different , and hence the Spirit that is common to all is not the Self but God or as per you Allfather.--On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 7:52 PM, Allan H <allanh1946@gmail.com> wrote:Some thought I see very well lnline response.
Allan H
A Living Soul
-----Original Message-----From: RP Singh <1234rp@gmail.com>
To: Minds Eye <minds-eye@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Fri, 18 Jul 2014 8:35 PM
Subject: Re: Mind's Eye organic life
The one Spirit is the inner Being of all and actually it is that which sees and acts in all organisms , but the paradox is that all individuals apparently see and act independently and are in a state of separateness and confrontation with each other.The above I agree with
The above I have problems with. Visual example. Our planet earth is part of our solar system. It is completely seperate but not independent of solar solar system, this applies in an inner and outward expansion.
This puts the Spirit in an obviously separate position from all individuals and because of its omnipotence is worthy of respect , to be worshiped and prayed to.
Now the Allfather is the totality of everything and more.Even though our real essence is the Spirit , it is separate from us and so instead of being called the Self it should be called God and our Father in Heaven.Our real essence is spirit, if I compare a person to a bottle of wine. My body is nothing more than the bottle in which the soul ages and matures. This ageing and maturing process is determined by each souls interpitation of its guideline of 'do no harm'.
Even though we are all made of the essence of the Allfather, that doesn't make me God, maybe a sub microschopic part but defiantly not God.
On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 12:37 AM, Allan H <allanh1946@gmail.com> wrote:
My single organic potato is growing quite in my pot Neil, How is your garden going.. it seems that the organic concept has great merit even though the organic substance of the soul I do not understand its essence yet, I know I know that the totality of everything and beyond is all contained within the ying yang of the Allfather.
The physical part of the body ,, the only thing that in=s making any real sense to me is is but a shell (container) in which for the soul to function within this time reality. Duality can exist within time and non-time. The only element of time that exist is the present,, the past has become a record within non-time.
one of the questions that arise is just what is the essence of the Allfather. the organic essence is relatively easy ,, the other essence is of the Allfather is another matter
Allan
A Living Soul
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