Re: Mind's Eye Tired With the Intenet

I go along with Allan and Molly.  I'm not interested in baby pictures or most things to do with family, but I'm abnormal in such respects and can value other people having space to do their stuff. I'm disappointed the lowest common denominator has taken over, much as it did in film and television.  But then I don't like the so-called high arts either!  I've done stuff like video conferencing and live distance assessments.  I do a thing with some colleagues where we can all see each other as though we were in the same room and we hear what is typed in any language in our via.  So far, the voice-based universal translators don't work.  Email and being able to chat with people in some of the situations I worked in abroad has been good.

What I'd hoped for was more influence on genuine democracy and maybe new ways of thinking and working qualitatively different to telecommuting.  I work with machines that are smarter than me once set off down the algorithm trail.  I'd hoped by now that kids might get taught science in a way that lets the machines do the maths and that we would have found ways for transparent accounting to change economics and politics.  I'd also like the news programmes to be in something more ,like real-time with counter-data flashed up as people claim such as 'staff in finance institutions are fairly paid'.  I thought we would have removed more of the gatekeepers like Murdock, BBC and so on and be funding from the bottom up.  I should have no need of television channels and be able to easily schedule my own.  I know most of what I want is possible.  The business model is currently lacking.

On Sunday, 6 April 2014 17:07:50 UTC+1, Allan Heretic wrote:

I like the internet. The commercial garbage I don't like ,  the Gutenberg project is fantastic many parts are fantastic,, communication feature is great. There are many many positives.
For me it helps over come some severe inabilities .. that leaves gratitude but also realize there are those that think they are  God  ,  but that is their perception ..reality can be totally different

(    Matrix ~ Do No Harm
  )        ~ Soul controls body
[_D ~ Allan H

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From: Molly <mollyb363@gmail.com>
To: minds-eye@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sun, 06 Apr 2014 3:23 PM
Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Tired With the Intenet

I'm having a hard time keeping up with the technology, the software and hardware changes, as I have my hands in much of it during the course of any day.  for me, the trick is keeping up with change and fulfilling all of the necessary tasks with them.  None of it would be anywhere without the people behind the fingers inputing data and making changes.  The immediacy of the info brings us leaps and bounds ahead, event in the way we relate.  If my daughter in law puts up a picture of my grand daughter taking her first step, she gets a hundred comments from folks around the world and in three or four different languages.  To me, that is amazing, our ability to share milestones across the distance.

Then there is the fact that I have never laid eyes on anyone in here, yet enjoy communicating and keep returning.  Inexplicable connection.

The Gutenberg project and google books allow me access to rare books, and I love that.  If I need a biblical reference, I can find it from every version of the bible in print.  Go to a search engine, type in the first lines of any poem or literary quote and you have access to the bio and library of the author.

In terms of the evolution of humanity, I wonder if it isn't pulling us inward, toward introspection, as I watch kids sitting side by side quietly tapping away on their smartphones.  Our connections are much more subtle than they used to be.  More of the unseen is revealed in intuitive ways. At some point, the volume of info is overwhelming so we begin to wonder, where is it leading us.  It does lead us somewhere, and if we have the wisdom to follow and witness our relationship to it, we living large.

On Sunday, April 6, 2014 3:24:56 AM UTC-4, Allan Heretic wrote:

Was thinking how the internet has changed, I actually met my wife online using ICQ it was a chat room where friends gathered. Had many an enjoyable chat now it is more or less a dating conquest service.

Personally I like discussion oddly other than my wife I still have one other friend from that era. Maybe I've changed. Today I look forward to emails from mind eye group  and a couple friends, follow my family and cousins on face book. And play one game.

The internet is good for looking up ideas but the problem is the commercial garbage littering the netscape.. computer and online has improved. But I am tiring of the trash.

(    Matrix ~ Do No Harm
  )        ~ Soul controls body
[_D ~ Allan H

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From: archytas <nwterry@gmail.com>
To: minds-eye@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sat, 05 Apr 2014 11:50 PM
Subject: Mind's Eye Tired With the Intenet

Mt first real use of the internet was searching for academic papers.  Back then you probably had to get hard copy via inter-library loan to actually be able to read them.  The ability to search was the great advance.  Physically browsing whatever your university had in stock was always rather difficult.  It's much easier now, though outside science, this has only increased my feeling the academy is a redundant organ.  The good thing about being at university was it increased your chances of being with people who might be interested in something other than gossip, small talk and fuck-buddying.  I said ' increased your chances' - universities are full of trivial behaviour and mass match-making.

I rather hoped the internet would be a place to escape the trivial and be a place for dialogue of the authentic, sincere, comedic and speculative.  I believed this possible because we could search each other out.  Currently I feel it is better than main media, but then so is walking the dog.  Most of my online time is spent in intranets, usually tutoring or searching databases of knowledge or institutional facts (stats usually).    The internet as I'd like to see it doesn't seem to be happening.  Quite a lot of the other stuff I do on lone is illegal, like watching films to discover they weren't worth buying in the first place, or watching television without adverts or promos.  I can still see potential, but the changes I'd hoped for just haven't materialised.  How's everyone else feeling?

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