Wednesday, March 5, 2014

Re: Mind's Eye Ukraine

Of course, Ford would blame the Jews, ad nauseum, in the Dearborn
independent. You will have to try a bit harder if you want to make the
SPLC watchlist Allan. :p

On 3/5/2014 2:28 AM, Allan H wrote:
> That area whole area is constantly one of tension and hatred. The
> religious community hierarchy is aware of the problem because the
> people themselves do not want to change.
>
> stumbled across this poem thought it was interesting was printed
> originally in the San Francois times:
>
> Here's what the poem said:
> Our generation will be known for nothing.
> Never will anybody say,
> We were the peak of mankind.
> That is wrong, the truth is
> Our generation was a failure.
> Thinking that
> We actually succeeded
> Is a waste. And we know
> Living only for money and power
> Is the way to go.
> Being loving, respectful, and kind
> Is a dumb thing to do.
> Forgetting about that time,
> Will not be easy, but we will try.
> Changing our world for the better
> Is something we never did.
> Giving up
> Was how we handled our problems.
> Working hard
> Was a joke.
> We knew that
> People thought we couldn't come back
> That might be true,
> Unless we turn things around
> (Read from bottom to top now)
>
>
> Reading from bottom to top, the poem reads:
> Unless we turn things around
> That might be true,
> People thought we couldn't come back
> We knew that
> Was a joke.
> Working hard
> Was how we handled our problems.
> Giving up
> Is something we never did.
> Changing our world for the better
> Will not be easy, but we will try.
> Forgetting about that time,
> Is a dumb thing to do.
> Being loving, respectful, and kind
> Is the way to go.
> Living only for money and power
> Is a waste. And we know
> We actually succeeded
> Thinking that
> Our generation was a failure.
> That is wrong, the truth is
> We were the peak of mankind.
> Never will anybody say,
> Our generation will be known for nothing.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 1:39 AM, archytas <nwterry@gmail.com
> <mailto:nwterry@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> About 70% of Russian energy going west goes through Ukraine.
> About half of the country is Russian. Before WW2 administration
> was split between Poland and USSR, roughly the split between
> Ukrainian and Russian speakers now. Ethnically both sets are
> East-Slav. Oil and gas have been found in west Ukraine. The
> mostly pro-Russian people live east of a line about 50 miles from
> Kiev. I haven't been since Soviet days, but the ethnic hatreds
> were deep and legion. The whole region has centuries of conflict
> that makes the US Civil War look tame and almost civilized.
>
> The Russians don't want war and about 80% evade their draft. I
> suppose the worrying thing is that WW1 started over less and took
> only 37 days to kick off. The relevant armies were hopelessly
> unprepared back then as now. The obvious answer is a new
> partition and we may see this as the defacto position in a few
> days s various militias rise in the east. Atrocities have been
> the norm in the past. I can't see how anyone gains other than
> through financial manipulation. My heart goes out to the poor
> sods caught up in it.
>
>
> On Tuesday, 4 March 2014 09:56:40 UTC, Allan Heretic wrote:
>
> I think they are heading to war or invasion.. what ever Russia
> is up to it is not good for us.. that is for sure.. but what
> do you expect from souls whose basic nature is that of a
> bully? It is sad for people directly effected..
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 12:19 AM, archytas <nwt...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> I have no idea what goes on. I don't have any roubles.
> While reading up on some history I did read that
> Krushchev ceded control of the Crimea to Kiev in 1954,
> Stalin expelled the Tartars killing 45% and that there
> were genocidal starvations. I sort of knew this stuff,
> but was amazed to discover Sevastopol was the centre of
> massive slaving of Europeans to the Middle East, mostly by
> the Tartars - who sacked Moscow in 1751 taking thousands
> into slavery. This European slavery continued after the
> bombardment of Algiers in 1816.
>
> It looks to me as though the Russians were enticed into
> invading Crimea. This has crashed the rouble and their
> stockmarket - one wonders who was short on both positions.
> The only thing I'e noticed is the reliance of western
> Europe on Russian energy. Anyone any ideas?
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