I feel many times.. it couldnt have been any other way.. whatever has happened... and also believe that i choose.. but i often feel.. i mean the thought suspiciously lurks in some corner in my mind.. that we can at best be aware of our inclinations.. and that we make the same type of choices and the same type of mistakes(if they must be so called)... since all action is fatal.. i mean .. inevitable.. irreversible.. because in acting and performing that action you wipe clean all the other what ifs.. the what if.. the zone of suspension is like a drug i feel... makes you feel safe...
EverComing
On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 3:58 PM, Gabby Thiede <gabbydott@gmail.com> wrote:
The free will question is a question of superiority and in this sense contradicts nature, but pleases man's nature. Of course the evolution of our brains, our thinking organ, our senses, our perception organs, and all the rest of us, did not only start when man had a free view and access to the new born. Our ability to think and to love clearly is rooted deeper than this. Yet becoming independent of the mother's chemistry, digesting one's own food, breathing one's own air, is a big step into the world of being free to decide which path to take. We hopefully become mature enough to become aware of the patterns we are operating on, we insert a break that has to be longer than 3 seconds, then we decide again. Manipulating this process is the big business.
Von: minds-eye@googlegroups.com [mailto:minds-eye@googlegroups.com] Im Auftrag von RP Singh
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 9. Januar 2014 10:29
An: Minds Eye
Betreff: Re: Mind's Eye Destiny
Thought itself is preceded by chemical activity and many times action arises without thought. How do you explain away the hallucinations occurring among the psychotics , and these very thoughts and beliefs are cured with medicines. Delusions also are thoughts and beliefs , yet they get cured with medicines. Moods lead to differing behaviors and these can be manipulated by drugs. What about hormones ? Are these spiritual or are they given birth by you, i.e. your soul. Yet these hormones are responsible for much physical and psychological activity.
On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 2:34 PM, andrew vecsey <andrewvecsey@gmail.com> wrote:
RP Singh wrote:
The script has already been written by God .................What you choose to do is preceded by specific chemical activity in the brain , every thought of decision is preceded by such activity , you are not the master of the body rather your body is your master.
Did not god give man free will? Why would a god who created life and created man create man just to blindly follow a script? What is the purpose? As far as choice being preceded by chemical activity, I do not think that that is correct. I think all choice is preceded by "thought". First we sense something physical or we have an intuition, then we think, then like you say our body gets ready to act by changing our chemistry, and then and only then can we actually act.
How can we prove if we really have free will and that we are not merely programmed to follow a script? Being able to think/love is good enough proof for me. Can you be programmed to think/love? I do not think so.--
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