Saturday, September 14, 2013

Re: Mind's Eye Re: A dead God

If consciousness is not awareness , what is it ? What is the difference between human consciousness and god-consciousness ?


On Sun, Sep 15, 2013 at 12:51 AM, Molly <mollyb363@gmail.com> wrote:
I think we are confusing consciousness with awareness in the conversation.  Consciousness is. It is infinite.  Some say that God is consciousness and we are the limited expression, like a passing thought.  I don't know about that.  But I do know that my awareness of consciousness, whether mental, emotional, spiritual or physical, can (but does not always) limit my experience of consciousness.  Our viewpoint, vantage point, or sum total of our awareness in any given moment (or in some cases, the moment eternal) creates our own unique experience of life.

When psychologists use the term conscious mind, unconscious mind, they are referring to a specific aspect of mind - what we are and are not aware of in our experience. When Freud hijacked the term, he knew that Hermetic philosophy used it quite differently.  This subtle, yet significant semantic aspect of the conversation seems to be creating barriers to communication.  Agreeing on the terms is important when delving this deep.


On Friday, September 13, 2013 6:29:10 PM UTC-4, archytas wrote:
Butt away pol - we'll never bottom this one.  We are sort of conscious of the unconscious as we have a name  for it and can be aware of such as unconscious desires at some point.  The only good god is a dead one RP.  Saves on the embarrassment of him not turning up when asked.  I'm tempted to say a dead immortal is a bit like a Cretan saying all Cretans are liars, Gabby makes sense and other such ... though there are known counterexamples on the latter two. 

On Friday, 13 September 2013 15:54:34 UTC+1, RP Singh wrote:
Is an unconscious God equal to a dead one? If that were so Life with order and intelligence wouldn't come out of it. We have become so used to thinking of oblivion as death that the possibility of the greatest power to exist in an unconscious state doesn't find acceptance in our belief-systems. Consciousness or awareness is a must for us , the finite individuals ,  but for the One who is infinite and the source of all , it would be limiting. Consciousness is limiting as it cannot be infinite and has boundaries , also it entails two , the creator and the creation , which is against logic at least to my mind.

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