Friday, May 31, 2013

Re: Mind's Eye Re: Gatsby

Here is two representatives of Denmark and Finland worth having a quick look at:

2013/5/31 James <>
We haven't had network tv for the longest time, and I have to say it isn't missed at all. Two of our favorite kid shows are about dogs, Kipper the Dog and Martha Speaks. We squeeze every last bit out of our budget broadband between Netflix and Amazon. I had a laugh a few months ago while reading something on Baudrillard and you came to mind on a nuance, I'll send a link if I can find it. As I recall he was a bit grandiose though. I have to be picky with literature, it is frustrating to move between processing multiple technical and legal documents quickly and then hit a snails pace on most philosophy and literature but worth the exercise when there's a few spare watts to burn. My lady can read a thick book on a busy day,

I much preferred the actor in Quantum of Solace over the other James Bonds, Matt Damon, Janeway in Star Trek Voyager, the lead character of House, ditto on Lie to Me, and need to check out Woody Allen, mostly mainstream I guess. Any recommendations for a foreign film noob (mostly, I've seen a few German, couple French)?

On 5/30/2013 4:38 PM, archytas wrote:
Back to the movies rigs - I think most are now too dumb to bear.  This
is a world that turns computers into toys.  The gated sheep is about
right.  I can't work out why they don't do much for 'our market
segment'.  Nearly all the good films I've seen in the last twenty
years have been French, German or Spanish (Mario et Jeanette; Mephisto/
Colonel Riedel, Belle Epoch/The Pope's Toilet/Pierot Le Bon Bon) and I
even like my cops French (Spiral), Danish (The Killing), my humour
Norwegian (You The Living).  My great literature comes from Darwin,
Einstein, Maxwell (not the dog) and any biologist other than Dawkins.
Cervantes and Tom Sharpe were sharp.  Kierkegaard is best read as a
teller of shaggy dog stories, Lyotard as telling ripping yarns.  There
is no television channel for poor little me!  We have a place called
the Corner House (run by one of my ex-students) that shows arty films.

Max takes me to woodland and a river on his walks.  Fish, frog spawn,
wet-land development, brilliant trees, other dogs and mostly lovely
owners, young lovers, kids being kids, kingfishers, a heron, ducks -
Max seems to admire the ducks.  I would like to write a translation of
his nose language.  He's basically a moon dog - stare at his face long
enough and he looks like the moon.

I read the other day that 72% of kids arriving at Harvard are virgins
and 22% still are when they graduate.  Maybe crass baa baa culture
doesn't get to all?

On 29 May, 13:28, rigs <> wrote:
FSF has a poetic romantic strain but is weak in some areas. We may
love his life as much as what he wrote. He did zero in on a certain
class- the American self-made man and fakery of it all despite the
s)uccess. Other authors were also dealing with this in different ways-
less glamourous ways. Yes- think I read about Faludi a few years
back.// The young women I know- mid-30's- are exhausted trying to
"have it all".//I think you have a formula. You're better than that, I

On May 28, 7:19 pm, archytas <> wrote:

Beyond the Gatsby path to great riches lie vapid women rigs?  I'm not
much impressed by Gabbeconomics on freedom, though sure she's right.
  Most of our effort goes in keeping wolves from doors.  I'm not sure
we have worked out emancipation, suspecting it may be from the need to
work to have the income not to have the choices of others forced on
us.  Women have made some moves against this, but I go with Susan
Faludi in thinking we are being stiffed.
Where lies prose in this rigs - and its seduction?  Winter cracked
spring broke late May.  The cold heart of Cornelius Stitt did not
warm, even as his dog frolicked.  Concerns of heavy world spiked
desire of retirement behind the attraction of a pub door and adventure
in the undiscovered continent.  In short, Harry Fleck had turned up
like a bad penny with a scheme against his quiet life plan.  You know
the kind of thing better than me.
On 28 May, 13:08, rigs <> wrote:
There are infinite possibilities- it's the imagination that's limited-
and the expectations of the market and audience. Also, it is a matter
of making money so good writers will pander and ruin themselves in the
On May 26, 12:00 pm, archytas <> wrote:
I liked some of his short stories.  There's a 1949 Gatsby film with
Shelly Winters (before her bloat) being credibly vapid.  I can barely
read Umberto Eco, yet like the films of his books.  Surely it must
have dawned by now rigs that most of these "creatives" just pander to
ignorant reality?  It just gets worse in film.  Give Hollywood a
chance to have star-crossed lovers and that's what you'll get.  When
we curl up with a book we can let our own minds wander.  This is where
much of the creativity lies.  I'd rather they screwed up Gatsby
(again) than churned out today's formulaic nonsense (Barely worth the
$10 fee to Pirate Bay).
I've tried to write a "real novel" and just can't manage he process at
all.  It might be possible as a screenplay that could be expanded by
people watching - I think in this sense writing may be at an end.
Actors and what they do in front of cameras or on stage can be
brilliant - yet they are more likely much of a muchness, constraining
the story as much as television news.  We are short of an adventurous
On May 25, 10:42 pm, rigs <> wrote:
I wish Hollywood would leave good novels alone. Have no intention of
seeing this latest Gatsby and the other Fitzgerald books/stories set
to film were terrible. He is one of my favorite and influential
writers.//Here are a couple of links to articles that appeared in the
NYTimes a few years ago as I suspected all along. Plots have their
seeds in reality.
"Hints of Future Novels in Letters to Fitzgerald" by Dinitia Smith-
Spetember 8,2003  <
"Mementos of a Real Romance That Fed Fitzgerald's Fiction" by Janet
Maslin January 24, 2005  <
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