Friday, May 31, 2013

Re: Mind's Eye Re: Gatsby

There's an 8 part French series called The Returned coming on C4 in
June. Ghost, crime, twin sisters who experience each other's orgasms
type of thing. Partners Against Crime is a French go at Agatha
Christie - which might not sound like me but I loved it - trailer here

On 31 May, 10:08, gabbydott <> wrote:
> Here is two representatives of Denmark and Finland worth having a quick
> look at:
> 2013/5/31 James <>
> > > We haven't had network tv for the longest time, and I have to say it isn't
> > missed at all. Two of our favorite kid shows are about dogs, Kipper the Dog
> > and Martha Speaks. We squeeze every last bit out of our budget broadband
> > between Netflix and Amazon. I had a laugh a few months ago while reading
> > something on Baudrillard and you came to mind on a nuance, I'll send a link
> > if I can find it. As I recall he was a bit grandiose though. I have to be
> > picky with literature, it is frustrating to move between processing
> > multiple technical and legal documents quickly and then hit a snails pace
> > on most philosophy and literature but worth the exercise when there's a few
> > spare watts to burn. My lady can read a thick book on a busy day,
> > I much preferred the actor in Quantum of Solace over the other James
> > Bonds, Matt Damon, Janeway in Star Trek Voyager, the lead character of
> > House, ditto on Lie to Me, and need to check out Woody Allen, mostly
> > mainstream I guess. Any recommendations for a foreign film noob (mostly,
> > I've seen a few German, couple French)?
> > On 5/30/2013 4:38 PM, archytas wrote:
> >> Back to the movies rigs - I think most are now too dumb to bear.  This
> >> is a world that turns computers into toys.  The gated sheep is about
> >> right.  I can't work out why they don't do much for 'our market
> >> segment'.  Nearly all the good films I've seen in the last twenty
> >> years have been French, German or Spanish (Mario et Jeanette; Mephisto/
> >> Colonel Riedel, Belle Epoch/The Pope's Toilet/Pierot Le Bon Bon) and I
> >> even like my cops French (Spiral), Danish (The Killing), my humour
> >> Norwegian (You The Living).  My great literature comes from Darwin,
> >> Einstein, Maxwell (not the dog) and any biologist other than Dawkins.
> >> Cervantes and Tom Sharpe were sharp.  Kierkegaard is best read as a
> >> teller of shaggy dog stories, Lyotard as telling ripping yarns.  There
> >> is no television channel for poor little me!  We have a place called
> >> the Corner House (run by one of my ex-students) that shows arty films.
> >> Max takes me to woodland and a river on his walks.  Fish, frog spawn,
> >> wet-land development, brilliant trees, other dogs and mostly lovely
> >> owners, young lovers, kids being kids, kingfishers, a heron, ducks -
> >> Max seems to admire the ducks.  I would like to write a translation of
> >> his nose language.  He's basically a moon dog - stare at his face long
> >> enough and he looks like the moon.
> >> I read the other day that 72% of kids arriving at Harvard are virgins
> >> and 22% still are when they graduate.  Maybe crass baa baa culture
> >> doesn't get to all?
> >> On 29 May, 13:28, rigs <> wrote:
> >>> FSF has a poetic romantic strain but is weak in some areas. We may
> >>> love his life as much as what he wrote. He did zero in on a certain
> >>> class- the American self-made man and fakery of it all despite the
> >>> s)uccess. Other authors were also dealing with this in different ways-
> >>> less glamourous ways. Yes- think I read about Faludi a few years
> >>> back.// The young women I know- mid-30's- are exhausted trying to
> >>> "have it all".//I think you have a formula. You're better than that, I
> >>> think.
> >>> On May 28, 7:19 pm, archytas <> wrote:
> >>>  Beyond the Gatsby path to great riches lie vapid women rigs?  I'm not
> >>>> much impressed by Gabbeconomics on freedom, though sure she's right.
> >>>>   Most of our effort goes in keeping wolves from doors.  I'm not sure
> >>>> we have worked out emancipation, suspecting it may be from the need to
> >>>> work to have the income not to have the choices of others forced on
> >>>> us.  Women have made some moves against this, but I go with Susan
> >>>> Faludi in thinking we are being stiffed.
> >>>> Where lies prose in this rigs - and its seduction?  Winter cracked
> >>>> spring broke late May.  The cold heart of Cornelius Stitt did not
> >>>> warm, even as his dog frolicked.  Concerns of heavy world spiked
> >>>> desire of retirement behind the attraction of a pub door and adventure
> >>>> in the undiscovered continent.  In short, Harry Fleck had turned up
> >>>> like a bad penny with a scheme against his quiet life plan.  You know
> >>>> the kind of thing better than me.
> >>>> On 28 May, 13:08, rigs <> wrote:
> >>>>> There are infinite possibilities- it's the imagination that's limited-
> >>>>> and the expectations of the market and audience. Also, it is a matter
> >>>>> of making money so good writers will pander and ruin themselves in the
> >>>>> process.
> >>>>> On May 26, 12:00 pm, archytas <> wrote:
> >>>>>> I liked some of his short stories.  There's a 1949 Gatsby film with
> >>>>>> Shelly Winters (before her bloat) being credibly vapid.  I can barely
> >>>>>> read Umberto Eco, yet like the films of his books.  Surely it must
> >>>>>> have dawned by now rigs that most of these "creatives" just pander to
> >>>>>> ignorant reality?  It just gets worse in film.  Give Hollywood a
> >>>>>> chance to have star-crossed lovers and that's what you'll get.  When
> >>>>>> we curl up with a book we can let our own minds wander.  This is where
> >>>>>> much of the creativity lies.  I'd rather they screwed up Gatsby
> >>>>>> (again) than churned out today's formulaic nonsense (Barely worth the
> >>>>>> $10 fee to Pirate Bay).
> >>>>>> I've tried to write a "real novel" and just can't manage he process at
> >>>>>> all.  It might be possible as a screenplay that could be expanded by
> >>>>>> people watching - I think in this sense writing may be at an end.
> >>>>>> Actors and what they do in front of cameras or on stage can be
> >>>>>> brilliant - yet they are more likely much of a muchness, constraining
> >>>>>> the story as much as television news.  We are short of an adventurous
> >>>>>> medium.
> >>>>>> On May 25, 10:42 pm, rigs <> wrote:
> >>>>>>> I wish Hollywood would leave good novels alone. Have no intention of
> >>>>>>> seeing this latest Gatsby and the other Fitzgerald books/stories set
> >>>>>>> to film were terrible. He is one of my favorite and influential
> >>>>>>> writers.//Here are a couple of links to articles that appeared in the
> >>>>>>> NYTimes a few years ago as I suspected all along. Plots have their
> >>>>>>> seeds in reality.
> >>>>>>> "Hints of Future Novels in Letters to Fitzgerald" by Dinitia Smith-
> >>>>>>> Spetember 8,2003  <**09/08/books/<>
> >>>>>>> 08FITZ.html>
> >>>>>>> "Mementos of a Real Romance That Fed Fitzgerald's Fiction" by Janet
> >>>>>>> Maslin January 24, 2005  <**01/24/books/<>
> >>>>>>> 24masl.html>
> >>>>>>> Hope they link!- Hide quoted text -
> >>>>>> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
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