Re: Mind's Eye Re: deep thought

You have a rapt audience Molly, I have many questions. I would be very
interested in information regarding child developmental psychology and
any individuals who have a story of their experiences and reflections
written. I understand there are many types of people out there and I
didn't think there was a word for it at all other than 'freak'. If you
have knowledge on this I can't express how valuable some would find it.

Do any of them feel like a 'pool of reflection'? Sensitivity to lying
and deceit? Is there any norm, parallels with autism, can they freely
dissociate (as in the complex, but the book is useless in this
instance)? Any statistical research out there, or terms I can use to
find more? Spare nothing please, I will cripple google with the fury of
my searches on your every word.

On 5/12/2013 9:30 AM, Allan H wrote:
> I agree with you Molly
>
>
> On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 2:53 PM, Molly <mollyb363@gmail.com
> <mailto:mollyb363@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> " I seem to learn in reverse starting with an
> intuitive bond but I'm no genius just weird"
>
> IMHO being in-tune with the unseen (or infinite) is a particularly
> sensitive and rare form of perception. I am always surprised and
> delighted to find such a person. Listening to our instincts and
> intuitions first, and allowing the material world to validate
> naturally is living life inside out.
>
> On May 11, 11:59 pm, James <ashkas...@gmail.com
> <mailto:ashkas...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> > Glad you said it Allan, my enthusiasm told me to leave the box
> alone. I
> > think the term 'unknown commodity' fits, and there are some strange
> > varieties out there as I've known at least one, others are
> suspect but
> > as I can see how they would be driven nuts I won't be out there
> > interviewing. The curiosity crosses my mind at times on the rare
> > occasion that I catch the news of whether someone was just
> another dumb
> > nut or did we just lose another potential major asset to
> civilization.
> > Yes, if we worked to meet the needs of all without exception, I said
> > this exact thing to someone regarding cultural integration the
> other day
> > in regards to our cultural isolation. An ounce of prevention.. a
> pound
> > of agression. It isn't even in the common vernacular I'm afraid.
> >
> > I am at a loss for meaning to your last sentence my instincts
> throw up
> > red flags on the subject. A few times I've been able to approach the
> > subject by reassociating an external self to see things as a
> story that
> > I was free to speak the truth of and pursue compassion and say
> 'Im so
> > sorry that...', as an older person would say to a child. It's still
> > blank though, push some more and blank to freeze (it's good to
> know the
> > physiological effects of stress disorders there), push more and
> it's .
> > morning shits and shakes for a few plus temporary immune system
> > shutdown. There are a variety of mental disciplines, meditative
> > techniques, insights into my nature, and preventive disciplines
> that can
> > be derived from experiences but I can't tell him 'you deserve
> better'
> > because it's relevance ends as a gesture. The process is
> intuitive with
> > others, a born talent, I seem to learn in reverse starting with an
> > intuitive bond but I'm no genius just weird. ;-) My sense of
> humor is
> > improving though, not being understood is so damn BORING, it's
> enough to
> > make a person develop ADHD.
> >
> > On 5/11/2013 8:11 AM, Allan H wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > there is great value in systematic enlightenment,,, I also think
> > > though that in needs to be a attachment to those out of the
> box and
> > > not dismissing them.. knowledge and access to it is spread
> through
> > > out humanity. the problems comes when someone starts saying I
> > > deserve more.
> >
> > > On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 3:23 AM, James <ashkas...@gmail.com
> <mailto:ashkas...@gmail.com>
> > > <mailto:ashkas...@gmail.com <mailto:ashkas...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
> >
> > > I agree that learning is self taught on the condition that
> most of
> > > the means and content is circumstantial and not chosen,
> > > 'systematique' is an abstraction and so for most I think
> it has
> > > referential truth (as a resource) but not process modeling
> truth
> > > until the mind has worked out components, inner systems and
> > > interactions.
> >
> > > An aim for building problem solving intelligence, developing
> > > experience with the tools of learning and skill in adapting
> > > skills/knowledge to solve novel (relatively) problems
> seems a good
> > > rough-draft purpose. The building blocks are important,
> they don't
> > > fall into arrangement the same for everyone though and
> that makes
> > > it challenging. I've had a few days where the teachers
> instruction
> > > seemed a variation on 'first world problems' and many of my
> > > schoolmates were hardened in that way, this is a known
> unknown,
> > > the challenge is an opportunity I think.
> >
> > > Gabby I was pulling a Marvin the Martian earlier, my
> general usage
> > > of enlightenment seems to be similar to Allan's, or as a
> 'piercing
> > > a veil of ignorance'. I hoped to get a view from Konara,
> but your
> > > tips were, hmm 'enlightening' nonetheless. ;-)
> >
> > > On 5/9/2013 9:27 PM, rigs wrote:
> >
> > > You need basic skills to begin with, however, and
> these are
> > > only as
> > > successful as certain other qualities/opportunities
> are present or
> > > attainable. Morality is generally picked up from
> family, tribe,
> > > nation, religion, political theory. There are plenty of
> > > examples of
> > > evil or poor choices made by popular consent/majority
> opinion.
> > > What is
> > > the ultimate purpose of education? Wisdom? Income? Etc.?
> >
> > > On May 9, 4:11 pm, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com
> <mailto:gabbyd...@gmail.com>
> > > <mailto:gabbyd...@gmail.com
> <mailto:gabbyd...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
> >
> > > What Neil says is that all learning is self taught
> - and
> > > so you are always
> > > successful. The question here is what you learn.
> The moral
> > > that you acquire
> > > while learning sans systematique is definitely more
> > > difficult to justify,
> > > yes.
> >
> > > 2013/5/9 Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com
> <mailto:allanh1...@gmail.com>
> > > <mailto:allanh1...@gmail.com
> <mailto:allanh1...@gmail.com>>>
> >
> > > Interesting the self taught often succeed..
> could be
> > > it seems what they
> > > do not learn appearantly is morality or how to
> > > justify their actions..
> > > On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 2:20 AM, rigs
> > > <rigs...@gmail.com <mailto:rigs...@gmail.com>
> <mailto:rigs...@gmail.com <mailto:rigs...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
> >
> > > I don't know either work referred to but
> not sure
> > > society could
> > > tolerate this kind of freedom in education or
> > > workplace with a few
> > > exceptions. Funny, but the self-taught often
> > > succeed. Anyway, society
> > > needs to control its education and workplaces-
> > > esp. since the
> > > Industrial Revolution. Another thought is the
> > > object of work<education
> > > is often just about money though many are
> > > dedicated to ideals and
> > > service and money is an afterthought or
> nevermind.
> > > On May 7, 1:46 pm, archytas
> <nwte...@gmail.com <mailto:nwte...@gmail.com>
> > > <mailto:nwte...@gmail.com
> <mailto:nwte...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
> >
> > > The short story is as Gabby remembers. 20
> > > years ago I ran a module
> > > called Creative Organisational
> Practices. The
> > > essential choice for
> > > students was to study the comparative
> > > relevance of Enid Blyton
> > > (children's stories) and 'In Search of
> > > Excellence' to management
> > > practice (both clearly fictional) or do
> > > something "creative" to stop
> > > me lecturing on this and do something they
> > > invented. That might be
> > > education.
> > > On 7 May, 08:42, Allan H
> <allanh1...@gmail.com <mailto:allanh1...@gmail.com>
> > > <mailto:allanh1...@gmail.com
> <mailto:allanh1...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
> >
> > > thank you it is starting to make
> sense now
> > > On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 9:41 AM,
> Allan H
> > > <allanh1...@gmail.com
> <mailto:allanh1...@gmail.com>
> > > <mailto:allanh1...@gmail.com
> <mailto:allanh1...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
> >
> > > oh to many drugs,,I guess
> epilepsy
> > > medications have severe side
> >
> > > effects
> >
> > > On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 9:33 AM,
> > > gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com
> <mailto:gabbyd...@gmail.com>
> > > <mailto:gabbyd...@gmail.com
> <mailto:gabbyd...@gmail.com>>>
> >
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > Search for the word on the
> group
> > > site and you will find older
> >
> > > contexts in
> >
> > > which the word has been
> used. As
> > > far as I remember Neil
> introduced
> >
> > > it,
> >
> > > sketching up education as
> being
> > > super male in its ejaculation
> >
> > > orientation
> >
> > > and super female in its child
> > > minding orientation. Truth for
> >
> > > Dummies.
> >
> > > 2013/5/7 Allan H
> > > <allanh1...@gmail.com
> <mailto:allanh1...@gmail.com>
> > > <mailto:allanh1...@gmail.com <mailto:allanh1...@gmail.com>>>
> >
> > > sorry Neil Ejukation
> is a word
> > > i cannot find .. as a
> result I am
> >
> > > not
> >
> > > sure what you are saying..
> > > On Mon, May 6, 2013 at
> 9:02
> > > PM, archytas
> > > <nwte...@gmail.com
> <mailto:nwte...@gmail.com>
> > > <mailto:nwte...@gmail.com <mailto:nwte...@gmail.com>>>
> >
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > Ejukation is basically
> > > child-minding - we give
> > > the little dears
> >
> > > easy
> >
> > > things to do so we can
> > > praise them. The ones too
> > > stupid to
> >
> > > realise
> >
> > > its all rubbish and bail
> > > out early end up with the
> > > biggest debts
> >
> > > - all
> >
> > > very meritocratic! The
> > > world would work rather
> > > well on a 2-day
> >
> > > week.
> >
> > > The
> >
> > ...
> >
> > read more »
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