Sunday, May 12, 2013

Re: Mind's Eye Re: deep thought

" I seem to learn in reverse starting with an
intuitive bond but I'm no genius just weird"

IMHO being in-tune with the unseen (or infinite) is a particularly
sensitive and rare form of perception. I am always surprised and
delighted to find such a person. Listening to our instincts and
intuitions first, and allowing the material world to validate
naturally is living life inside out.

On May 11, 11:59 pm, James <ashkas...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Glad you said it Allan, my enthusiasm told me to leave the box alone. I
> think the term 'unknown commodity' fits, and there are some strange
> varieties out there as I've known at least one, others are suspect but
> as I can see how they would be driven nuts I won't be out there
> interviewing. The curiosity crosses my mind at times on the rare
> occasion that I catch the news of whether someone was just another dumb
> nut or did we just lose another potential major asset to civilization.
> Yes, if we worked to meet the needs of all without exception, I said
> this exact thing to someone regarding cultural integration the other day
> in regards to our cultural isolation. An ounce of prevention.. a pound
> of agression. It isn't even in the common vernacular I'm afraid.
>
> I am at a loss for meaning to your last sentence my instincts throw up
> red flags on the subject. A few times I've been able to approach the
> subject by reassociating an external self to see things as a story that
> I was free to speak the truth of and pursue compassion and say 'Im so
> sorry that...', as an older person would say to a child. It's still
> blank though, push some more and blank to freeze (it's good to know the
> physiological effects of stress disorders there), push more and it's  .
> morning shits and shakes for a few plus temporary immune system
> shutdown. There are a variety of mental disciplines, meditative
> techniques, insights into my nature, and preventive disciplines that can
> be derived from experiences but I can't tell him 'you deserve better'
> because it's relevance ends as a gesture. The process is intuitive with
> others, a born talent, I seem to learn in reverse starting with an
> intuitive bond but I'm no genius just weird. ;-) My sense of humor is
> improving though, not being understood is so damn BORING, it's enough to
> make a person develop ADHD.
>
> On 5/11/2013 8:11 AM, Allan H wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > there is great value in systematic enlightenment,,,  I also think
> > though that in needs to be a attachment to those out of the box and
> > not dismissing them..  knowledge and access to it is spread through
> > out humanity.   the problems comes when someone starts saying I
> > deserve more.
>
> > On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 3:23 AM, James <ashkas...@gmail.com
> > <mailto:ashkas...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> >     I agree that learning is self taught on the condition that most of
> >     the means and content is circumstantial and not chosen,
> >     'systematique' is an abstraction and so for most I think it has
> >     referential truth (as a resource) but not process modeling truth
> >     until the mind has worked out components, inner systems and
> >     interactions.
>
> >     An aim for building problem solving intelligence, developing
> >     experience with the tools of learning and skill in adapting
> >     skills/knowledge to solve novel (relatively) problems seems a good
> >     rough-draft purpose. The building blocks are important, they don't
> >     fall into arrangement the same for everyone though and that makes
> >     it challenging. I've had a few days where the teachers instruction
> >     seemed a variation on 'first world problems' and many of my
> >     schoolmates were hardened in that way, this is a known unknown,
> >     the challenge is an opportunity I think.
>
> >     Gabby I was pulling a Marvin the Martian earlier, my general usage
> >     of enlightenment seems to be similar to Allan's, or as a 'piercing
> >     a veil of ignorance'. I hoped to get a view from Konara, but your
> >     tips were, hmm 'enlightening' nonetheless. ;-)
>
> >     On 5/9/2013 9:27 PM, rigs wrote:
>
> >         You need basic skills to begin with, however, and these are
> >         only as
> >         successful as certain other qualities/opportunities are present or
> >         attainable. Morality is generally picked up from family, tribe,
> >         nation, religion, political theory. There are plenty of
> >         examples of
> >         evil or poor choices made by popular consent/majority opinion.
> >         What is
> >         the ultimate purpose of education? Wisdom? Income? Etc.?
>
> >         On May 9, 4:11 pm, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com
> >         <mailto:gabbyd...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> >             What Neil says is that all learning is self taught - and
> >             so you are always
> >             successful. The question here is what you learn. The moral
> >             that you acquire
> >             while learning sans systematique is definitely more
> >             difficult to justify,
> >             yes.
>
> >             2013/5/9 Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com
> >             <mailto:allanh1...@gmail.com>>
>
> >                 Interesting the self taught often succeed..  could be
> >                 it seems what they
> >                 do not learn appearantly is morality  or how to
> >                 justify their actions..
> >                 On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 2:20 AM, rigs
> >                 <rigs...@gmail.com <mailto:rigs...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> >                     I don't know either work referred to but not sure
> >                     society could
> >                     tolerate this kind of freedom in education or
> >                     workplace with a few
> >                     exceptions. Funny, but the self-taught often
> >                     succeed. Anyway, society
> >                     needs to control its education and workplaces-
> >                     esp. since the
> >                     Industrial Revolution. Another thought is the
> >                     object of work<education
> >                     is often just about money though many are
> >                     dedicated to ideals and
> >                     service and money is an afterthought or nevermind.
> >                     On May 7, 1:46 pm, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com
> >                     <mailto:nwte...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> >                         The short story is as Gabby remembers.  20
> >                         years ago I ran a module
> >                         called Creative Organisational Practices.  The
> >                         essential choice for
> >                         students was to study the comparative
> >                         relevance of Enid Blyton
> >                         (children's stories) and 'In Search of
> >                         Excellence' to management
> >                         practice (both clearly fictional) or do
> >                         something "creative" to stop
> >                         me lecturing on this and do something they
> >                         invented.  That might be
> >                         education.
> >                         On 7 May, 08:42, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com
> >                         <mailto:allanh1...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> >                             thank you  it is starting to make sense now
> >                             On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 9:41 AM, Allan H
> >                             <allanh1...@gmail.com
> >                             <mailto:allanh1...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> >                                 oh  to many drugs,,I guess epilepsy
> >                                 medications have severe side
>
> >                     effects
>
> >                                 On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 9:33 AM,
> >                                 gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com
> >                                 <mailto:gabbyd...@gmail.com>>
>
> >                     wrote:
>
> >                                     Search for the word on the group
> >                                     site and you will find older
>
> >                     contexts in
>
> >                                     which the word has been used. As
> >                                     far as I remember Neil introduced
>
> >                     it,
>
> >                                     sketching up education as being
> >                                     super male in its ejaculation
>
> >                     orientation
>
> >                                     and super female in its child
> >                                     minding orientation. Truth for
>
> >                     Dummies.
>
> >                                     2013/5/7 Allan H
> >                                     <allanh1...@gmail.com
> >                                     <mailto:allanh1...@gmail.com>>
>
> >                                         sorry Neil Ejukation is a word
> >                                         i cannot find ..  as a result I am
>
> >                     not
>
> >                                         sure what you are saying..
> >                                         On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 9:02
> >                                         PM, archytas
> >                                         <nwte...@gmail.com
> >                                         <mailto:nwte...@gmail.com>>
>
> >                     wrote:
>
> >                                             Ejukation is basically
> >                                             child-minding - we give
> >                                             the little dears
>
> >                     easy
>
> >                                             things to do so we can
> >                                             praise them.  The ones too
> >                                             stupid to
>
> >                     realise
>
> >                                             its all rubbish and bail
> >                                             out early end up with the
> >                                             biggest debts
>
> >                     - all
>
> >                                             very meritocratic!  The
> >                                             world would work rather
> >                                             well on a 2-day
>
> >                     week.
>
> >                                             The
>
> ...
>
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