there is great value in systematic enlightenment,,, I also think though that in needs to be a attachment to those out of the box and not dismissing them.. knowledge and access to it is spread through out humanity. the problems comes when someone starts saying I deserve more.
On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 3:23 AM, James <ashkashal@gmail.com> wrote:
I agree that learning is self taught on the condition that most of the means and content is circumstantial and not chosen, 'systematique' is an abstraction and so for most I think it has referential truth (as a resource) but not process modeling truth until the mind has worked out components, inner systems and interactions.
An aim for building problem solving intelligence, developing experience with the tools of learning and skill in adapting skills/knowledge to solve novel (relatively) problems seems a good rough-draft purpose. The building blocks are important, they don't fall into arrangement the same for everyone though and that makes it challenging. I've had a few days where the teachers instruction seemed a variation on 'first world problems' and many of my schoolmates were hardened in that way, this is a known unknown, the challenge is an opportunity I think.
Gabby I was pulling a Marvin the Martian earlier, my general usage of enlightenment seems to be similar to Allan's, or as a 'piercing a veil of ignorance'. I hoped to get a view from Konara, but your tips were, hmm 'enlightening' nonetheless. ;-)
On 5/9/2013 9:27 PM, rigs wrote:
You need basic skills to begin with, however, and these are only as
successful as certain other qualities/opportunities are present or
attainable. Morality is generally picked up from family, tribe,
nation, religion, political theory. There are plenty of examples of
evil or poor choices made by popular consent/majority opinion. What is
the ultimate purpose of education? Wisdom? Income? Etc.?
On May 9, 4:11 pm, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
What Neil says is that all learning is self taught - and so you are always
successful. The question here is what you learn. The moral that you acquire
while learning sans systematique is definitely more difficult to justify,
yes.
2013/5/9 Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com>
Interesting the self taught often succeed.. could be it seems what they...
do not learn appearantly is morality or how to justify their actions..
On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 2:20 AM, rigs <rigs...@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't know either work referred to but not sure society could
tolerate this kind of freedom in education or workplace with a few
exceptions. Funny, but the self-taught often succeed. Anyway, society
needs to control its education and workplaces- esp. since the
Industrial Revolution. Another thought is the object of work<education
is often just about money though many are dedicated to ideals and
service and money is an afterthought or nevermind.
On May 7, 1:46 pm, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
The short story is as Gabby remembers. 20 years ago I ran a moduleeffects
called Creative Organisational Practices. The essential choice for
students was to study the comparative relevance of Enid Blyton
(children's stories) and 'In Search of Excellence' to management
practice (both clearly fictional) or do something "creative" to stop
me lecturing on this and do something they invented. That might be
education.
On 7 May, 08:42, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
thank you it is starting to make sense now
On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 9:41 AM, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
oh to many drugs,,I guess epilepsy medications have severe side
wrote:On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 9:33 AM, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com>
contexts inSearch for the word on the group site and you will find older
it,which the word has been used. As far as I remember Neil introduced
orientationsketching up education as being super male in its ejaculation
Dummies.and super female in its child minding orientation. Truth for
not2013/5/7 Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com>
sorry Neil Ejukation is a word i cannot find .. as a result I am
wrote:sure what you are saying..
On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 9:02 PM, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com>
easyEjukation is basically child-minding - we give the little dears
realisethings to do so we can praise them. The ones too stupid to
- allits all rubbish and bail out early end up with the biggest debts
week.very meritocratic! The world would work rather well on a 2-day
classroomThe ejukationist's job is to stop people realising this, the
doing whatthe straight-jacket through which we get people used to not
wellthey want to.
On 6 May, 10:50, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
knowledge is enlightenment -- spiritual enlightenment ---
work.there are
more ideas and ramblings people call enlightened.. at least
a enlightened carpenter the enlightenment will show up in his
gabbyd...@gmail.com>On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 11:13 AM, gabbydott <
can bewrote:
'Wissen' -We used to view what I think you are describing through the
justification'Können' glasses. The spiritual dimension needed the right
and calibration of both. We now ask if you:
know-that/know-about/know-how/know-why/know-what.
2013/5/6 Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com>
there are many forms of enlightenment.. a skilled carpenter
on caringenlightened on crafting wood.. a nurse can be enlightened
gabbyd...@gmail.com>enlightenment..for patients . . . there are many different forms of
knowledge..spiritual enlightenment is perhaps the most confusing of all
On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 10:01 AM, gabbydott <
troublewrote:
Of course a more figurative light is being meant! The
allowsremains
'Aufklärung' orthe same. "Enlightenment" is the word. The context makes it
figurative'Erleuchtung', light particle or light wave.
2013/5/6 James <ashkas...@gmail.com>
Hello Konara, rigsy, all. I am wondering if this is a more
'light'..? In the sense that it illuminates the world and
thea greater
understanding and mastery of things, I mean.
Spring is in the air. :)
On 5/5/2013 1:10 AM, rigs wrote:
Pardon my late welcome. Why not refine instead of tame
kona...@gmail.com>senses?
They are also gifts.
On Apr 28, 10:46 pm, Konara Abeyrathne <
or easy.wrote:
training or developing our mind is not that difficult
tamemind is
a very active and naughty sense .onlything we have to
theother
senses,concentrate on the function of the mind through
you have"MIND EYE'"
itself. and engage in trancedental meditation. this
and seeto
start and
continue until you see a bright light in your mind try
rigs...@gmail.com>pl I
am
abeyratne from Kandy Sri Lanka
On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 9:08 AM, rigs <
thewrote:
Someone recently mentioned Socrates was alarmed with
thought itpopularity
of
writing as he felt it would weaken the memory. I
house oflovely
that the ancient bards trained their minds like a
wrote:many rooms
and storied them.
On Apr 28, 7:27 pm, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com>
couldn'tNo idea mate. Deep Thought was the computer that
theanswer
the
question and thus commissioned a bigger one to find
wrote:question.
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