Tuesday, May 14, 2013

Re: Mind's Eye the greatest philospher of our time

How do you arrive at pathfinder..????
when are you going to answer the 5 questions I asked...   

so you are now into the ancient laws of Egypt?


On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 7:19 PM, pathfinder <masonedward058@gmail.com> wrote:




In effort to begin where I left off, Archytas, it is a good thing that
you don't waste your time in search of any of the artifacts listed in
any of the first five books of the Torah, the first five books of the
Old Testament . These books were written as allegorical to simplify
the Laws inherent in reaching the formation of the triangle
(Knowledge, Wisdom, and Understanding). They describe the battle and
the journey each individual faces in that process. They also simplify
the Spiritual Laws of ancient Egypt from the more than 40 Laws to the
10, which were later broken down again by Jesus to 2.




As for the teachings of Jesus ( which was not his name), we should
should note that what we got as his teachings were instituted by Paul.
Jesus spoke in parables to all except his disciple, explicitly for the
purpose that the people would not get it. Then the disciple were
either killed or exiled within 70 years after Jesus left the scene and
the writings which they left were burned and forbidden. It should also
be noted that Jesus told of this theft in a parable where the keepers
of the vineyard killed the son and claimed his inheritance. Daniel
also spoke of it when he mentioned the Proclamation that would be set
up which would defy The very Laws that would elevate humanity; ( bring
blood into the temple).




To get more reasoning to this scenario one could compare Isaiah
6:9-13; and Matthew 13:10-17; and 34:10. You will see one difference
in Isaiah and Matthew, where Isaiah said you go and blind them making
them hard-hearted and deft. But in Matthew these writers wrote as if
the people done it to themselves. This should not be surprising given
the intentions involved.




This would place us in our present state; in the furnish were we would
be purified by the flames of judgement. Our only hope is to attain the
right state in regard to the Laws regardless who or what we recognize
as God, the controlling forces of doing good or bad. It is not even
necessary that one believe in a god as long as they can arrive at a
state where they recognize and respect the powers of this force and
the need to respect their fellow man as himself. But somehow this is
just too simple. Man tends to need it more complicated or he is
tempted by the benefits of keeping such knowledge from the people.

On May 13, 10:22 pm, Edward Mason <masonedward...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Archytas, thanks for those words. Your points well taken. As for where you
> place your glasses, lol, we tend to forget such things because of the lack
> of attention at the time of placing such things. If I lay my keys on the
> table while my attention is focused feeding the dog to get that done so
> that I may began to study, then by the time I am ready to study I may have
> no idea where my glasses are.
> To be clear, I have no religion. I think that religion is nothing more than
> a tradition that may or may not have served some higher purpose at the time
> it began. One of the many problems with traditions is that once they are
> practiced by a group, they are too hard to change to keep up with any
> present condition. Not to mention the errors inherent in the first place.
> Religion is the prime example, as they all come from the misinterpretation
> of the hieroglyphs.
> Take for instance the, take note of the symbol that we find on all
> medically associated items such as hospitals and ambulances; that of the
> two serpents entwined around the sword, with the two wings of the bird at
> the top from the handle of the sword. This is actually a recipe for cure of
> disease. For centuries the science behind that knowledge was unknown.
> However, it was believed that the symbol itself had some healing qualities,
> so it was adopted into the medical communities.
> The recipe itself is to cut the heads from two snake, filter the poison
> through the birds, and then consume the birds. So the cure for snake bites
> was invented into modern society. Only more recently have this science been
> expanded to include lizards, spiders, and other venomous creatures. The
> effect of the venom is in reverse when manipulated and is used in a variety
> of conditions to include heart diseases.
> So a lot of the fables and ancient writings upon which religions are based
> on, are merely misrepresentations. We are left with trying to make sence
> and practical use from what we get.
>
> The end to that cycle is a colletive aquasition by individuals in the
> societies of Correct Knowledge and Wisdom. Those two will Breed Perfect
> Understanding within the individuals. As these enlightened Ones relate what
> is termed The Marriage is thus formed. The misinterpretation of this
> formular is where religions get the teachings of the trinity (triangle) and
> the 360 degrees (the square).
>
> I will have to finish this message a little later. Sorry! I just wanted to
> get this little bit out.
>
> On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 8:13 AM, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > very true,,
>
> > On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 1:56 PM, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> What? (Y)our belief system creates/determines (y)our experiences
>
> creates/determines (y)our belief system!
>
> >> Am 13.05.2013 12:43 schrieb "Allan H" <allanh1...@gmail.com>:
>
> >>> Gabby Beliefs have nothing to do with any thing as I really do not care
>
> what a person believes, in reality I find different beliefs quite
> interesting. I will probably as some very dumb questions .. Yet It
> is against group rules at we can not verbally assault another person or
> their character.. and that my dear is exactly what our friend has done..
>
> >>> On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 12:15 PM, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>> I don't understand what all this fuss is about, Allan, except for this
>
> being right thing. And yes, there is times and perspectives and questions
> that ask for "Am I being right or wrong here?". A totally legitimate
> question. The cross with its focus on marking the point might give you the
> orientation you are looking for. I still like the celtic cross with its
> circular element around the cross better though. Not that this makes or
> marks any difference in our reality, but in our Wirklichkeit. God's son
> being mortal put something "new" in focus, but this knowledge about our
> mortality was not new, only a newly relativizing mainstreaming process
> began. What you call the Kingdom of God in your Kingdom of William of
> Orange in the Netherlands! ;)
>
> >>>> 2013/5/13 Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com>
>
> >>>>> You are very right kenny, but I still to share some insights  a
>
> little to much probably.thing o To me it is strange how people react when
> then are t;; threatened. I do not see how the reality that one is already
> living in the kingdom of God. Other than trying to marginalize me. Edward
> how bout proving that the kingdom of God not here,, something other than
> you say so. What evidence do you have about your beliefs that Jesus was not
> crucified.
>
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>
> >>>>> Matrix  **  th3 beginning light
>
> >>>>> On May 12, 2013 11:10 PM, "archytas" <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>>> I never really understand why people believe in old fables Edward.  I
> >>>>>> spend plenty of time looking for my misplaced glasses and am too
> smart
> >>>>>> to bother with a mobile phone because I'd lose it (I check emails on
> >>>>>> my laptop and Skype from that instead).  I don't go looking for lost
> >>>>>> arks, fairies at the bottom of the garden or historical figures from
> >>>>>> ancient or modern fictional text.  Religion is control fraud - not
> >>>>>> worth falling out over.  Allan forgets this sometimes, but this is
> >>>>>> worth ignoring long-term.  We all begin in a forgetting, even if we
> >>>>>> must find past lives as RP suggests.  I haven't got much further than
> >>>>>> discovering our collective memories, even if written down, are mostly
> >>>>>> wrong.  Xtian, Muslim, 8th Day Adventist and Cargo Cultist are all
> the
> >>>>>> same to me - most of us extend courtesy and hospitality beyond
> 'chosen
> >>>>>> people' status.  Sometimes we forget.  Jesus may have told us to
> >>>>>> beware German Protestant women who vote green, or not.  The
> Upanishads
> >>>>>> may hold the secret to the treatment of women, or not.  Numbers 31
> may
> >>>>>> be about a great leader, or a war criminal or both.  Of course, in
> >>>>>> elevating any text to 'fundamental' one certainly denies the notion
> of
> >>>>>> not worshiping false Idols.
>
> >>>>>> On 12 May, 20:47, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> > sorry edward all I have heard is you attack me personally,,  and
> you have
> >>>>>> > said  nothing else..
>
> >>>>>> > On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 9:20 PM, Edward Mason <
>
> masonedward...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
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> >>>>>> > > Have it your way, Allan. But know that beliefs do not tailor
> realities;
> >>>>>> > > actions do. We all reap the fruit of the seeds that we plant. My
> commision
> >>>>>> > > is to speak the Words so that they will be heard; never to force
> one to use
> >>>>>> > > or acquire the ability to use common sence.
>
> >>>>>> > > On Sunday, May 12, 2013, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> > > > Mr. Edward Mason,   why are you attacking me personally?  Your
> >>>>>> > > teachings??   interesting  when you came  you try to hide behind
> a mystery
> >>>>>> > > veil,  a common tactic in fundamentalist trying to create
> interest and
> >>>>>> > > build their importance.. I have already apologized once I will
> not do it
> >>>>>> > > again.
> >>>>>> > > > Actually   For example: I don't even think that Jesus died on
> the cross.
> >>>>>> > > I believe that Paul proclaimed his own teachings as that of
> Jesus after
> >>>>>> > > Jesus went into exile, probably to France or India, and lived
> the remainder
> >>>>>> > > of his life with his wife and children. that is the only one of
> your
> >>>>>> > > beliefs I have read you state..  but go on with  your beliefs
>  ....  I have
> >>>>>> > > no opinion at this point..   are you setting us up to tell us
> you are a
> >>>>>> > > direct lineage of Jesus??   :o)
> >>>>>> > > > No I will not take your advice and shut up   then I will
> continue to be
> >>>>>> > > that evil floating around to prevent your teachings from taking
> root..not
> >>>>>> > > sorry about that either  some one has to be the gadfly, lol  I
> accept the
> >>>>>> > > position.. If you think you are alone..  poor RP caught the full
> bore of
> >>>>>> > > the book thumper,  I know he will never believe it I actually
> like him..
> >>>>>> > >  as for Andrew,  Never liked downloading videos but he gives me
> >>>>>> > > a transcript so I can read what he has to say,,  he is okay..
> not that I
> >>>>>> > > agree with him but it is okay for him to see things the way he
> does, His
> >>>>>> > > english speech has improved greatly ..
> >>>>>> > > > As for this group,, they tolerate me for which I am grateful
> as it
> >>>>>> > > allows me to explore different and concepts..  as for concepts,,
>   one I do
> >>>>>> > > not buy is reincarnation you get one go around ..   but then
> again I have a
> >>>>>> > > feeling your and my beliefs and views are far apart.. For your
> information
> >>>>>> > > I do not think you will be able to make Minds Eye your cult....
>  oops I
> >>>>>> > > mean followers..
>
> >>>>>> > > > On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 5:40 PM, Edward Mason <
>
> masonedward...@gmail.com>
>
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> >>>>>> > > wrote:
>
> >>>>>> > > >> "The unfounded assumption of what Edward does or does not
> know, makes
> >>>>>> > > the ass look like u not me. +"
> >>>>>> > > >>   For example: I don't even think that Jesus died on the
> cross. I
> >>>>>> > > believe that Paul proclaimed his own teachings as that of Jesus
> after Jesus
> >>>>>> > > went into exile, probably to France or India, and lived the
> remainder of
> >>>>>> > > his life with his wife and children.
>
> >>>>>> > > >> >>A
> >>>>>> > > >>   another Paulist I see,,  lol  ..  contrary to your
> teachings the
> >>>>>> > > Kingdom of God is already here..  sorry you missed it.
> >>>>>> > > >> >>Maybe you should start repenting  or what ever you call i
> now..  As
> >>>>>> > > for what you know Edward..  you try to hide in the mystery
> >>veils of
> >>>>>> > > a fundamentalist.. sorry Edward accepting Jesus as my personal
> savior
> >>>>>> > > doesn't cut it..
>
> ...
>
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