Saturday, March 30, 2013

Re: Mind's Eye Re: Good and bad

My singing clears life faster than a neutron bomb.

On Mar 30, 8:04 am, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> You took singing lessons in Germany Neil? did you get a chance to sing some
> of Wagner's operas? ;o0
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> On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 11:52 PM, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > New Shades of Black sort of works for what I meant to write.  We
> > scientists never got on with grammar, having decided explosions and
> > light effects much more interesting than the seduction of language and
> > the aphoristic path to French homosexuals or novels meant for girls.
> > To us sentences were meaningless enough, probably some sort of mating
> > talk we would eventually have to learn to predicate ourselves with
> > subjects of the wider form of life we hoped to sleep with whilst
> > awake.  Someone forgot to tell Shakespeare we prefer quiet and thus
> > one has to put up with a lot of noise before the rest belatedly
> > acknowledged and consigned to silence by the copy-scribe Wittgenstein
> > whilst in traction.
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> > What is the decision of the cut-off thumb rigs?  The one next to one
> > hand clapping.  What fuggy muggy logic behind the pub door lures from
> > the temptation of an affair with Karenina otherwise a necessity in not
> > getting out enough?  Translation bitter gnädiges Fräulein lest I lapse
> > to that most logically structured modern language eliminating space
> > grammar of verylongwordsruntogether and verbs inconveniently placed so
> > that one after the event what's going on knows.  Or assume I have gone
> > mad reading Goethe during an opera by Wagner.  There is no difference
> > without differance I was told, French cafe with poor folk music poor
> > folk might have feigned attention of to stay warm as hinterland no
> > desired fuggymug in Paris over beer designed for Pelicans with an old
> > Jewish pied noire clinking Glas because his son had disowned him for
> > secrets said in public.
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> > I must remember word order in German is more flexible than in English
> > when I study for my certificates in
> > Rindfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübertragungsgesetz.  You
> > just have to know a compound as long as that concerns or deserves
> > butchery!  Gabby and I (now there's a title for a dreadful sitcom) may
> > share Old Saxon or earlier German grass-porridge growing invaders of
> > Scotland ancestry.  Genes may be better proof than attempting to
> > construct the common language before my Scot's tendency to bad
> > poetics, the lady's dark-eye observation code and the smile that will
> > come on knowledge my grandson has eaten the last of the biscuits.
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> > On Mar 29, 12:22 pm, rigs <rigs...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Funny. I was just musing that social media is related to the thumbs up/
> > > down of the Colosseum of ancient Rome! :-)
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> > > On Mar 29, 6:28 am, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > Oh, the credits for pointing out the possibility/likelihood of being
> > the
> > > > subject/object of distortions go to Rigs! Omitting the predicate might
> > have
> > > > evoked the feeling you could have missed something, but no, you're
> > right,
> > > > there was no point.
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> > > > The "Oh shit!" pedagogic method is called "black pedagogy", not to be
> > > > mistaken with "black humor", or with the connections to the past that
> > Rigs
> > > > draws.
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> > > > Hey Neil, how about "New Shades Of Black" as a book title for the book
> > I
> > > > have pre-ordered from you? Ok, I admit, I'm not really waiting, I have
> > > > already started reading. :)
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> > > > 2013/3/28 James <ashkas...@gmail.com>
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> > > > > One approach that I've rarely caught in a class is a teacher taking
> > a no
> > > > > BS approach to the material. It seems useful to have a frank
> > historical
> > > > > perspective on what motivates the theories or breaches the old
> > paradigms,
> > > > > perhaps a creative excursion into cultural universals. Maybe picking
> > a few
> > > > > wacky examples of applied economics and let them get a good laugh,
> > then
> > > > > show parallels with their culture to get them thinking.
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> > > > > One example is ancient civilizations using up natural resources, then
> > > > > looking over the forecasted impact of the US aquifers bottoming out.
> > > > > Suddenly the conservationists don't sound as alarmist, is there a
> > word for
> > > > > the "Oh shit!" pedagogic method? No offense but economics sounds
> > boring in
> > > > > itself, but your thoughts here make it sound interesting. Are you
> > allowed
> > > > > to hint to the class when you think something is little more than an
> > > > > academic publishing circle jerk?
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> > > > > Hmm, what you've said about 'distorting filters' has me wondering if
> > I
> > > > > missed gabby's point. You lost a book and I was born.. :D
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> > > > > On 3/27/2013 7:28 PM, archytas wrote:
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> > > > >> I've just read a book that says neo-classical economics is just an
> > > > >> ideology forced down our throats by the vile rich - actually the
> > whole
> > > > >> book probably says less than that as the authors won't call a spade
> > a
> > > > >> spade.  Gabby seems to have read he book too.  It came 30 years too
> > > > >> late.  I could have missed all those research methods classes and
> > > > >> worried less about feeling economics was a load of junk that could
> > > > >> only make sense to Monty Python's dead Norwegian Blue parrot.
> >  Perhaps
> > > > >> economists have just discovered the archive of my lecture notes,
> > lost
> > > > >> on a bus in Lancaster in 1983?  I seem to remember they advocated
> > > > >> swapping one set of distorting filters for another and mentioning
> > the
> > > > >> term paradigm a lot.  Big data was barred as positivist - a term I
> > > > >> loosely translated as 'guileless scientist like you Neil'. You had
> > to
> > > > >> call data 'capta' to be in with the crowd that mistakenly thought it
> > > > >> was the in crowd, socially constructed facts from thin air I
> > > > >> interpreted as a source for green hydrocarbon production and taught
> > me
> > > > >> to spell phenomenological.
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> > > > >> On Mar 25, 10:02 pm, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > >>> The Big Picture via distorting filters onto Big Data?
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> > > > >>> 2013/3/24 andrew vecsey <andrewvec...@gmail.com>
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> > > > >>>  I do not think that we lie to our self so much as that we only
> > see/hear
> > > > >>>> what we want to see/hear. Also we tend to say what we think the
> > other
> > > > >>>> persons wants to hear or say things to hurt other people.
> > > > >>>> On Sunday, March 24, 2013 10:46:03 AM UTC+1, rigs wrote:
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> > > > >>>>> I am more interested in why we lie to ourselves, suppress
> > reality and
> > > > >>>>> snarl logic in our brains. There are life and death moments of
> > > > >>>>> survival, I suppose, but much of our potential is engineered by
> > family
> > > > >>>>> and culture in order to achieve some sort of control and order.
> > Even
> > > > >>>>> rebels are often little more than a reaction. Pretense and
> > etiquette
> > > > >>>>> are often the same thing.//I must have "lost" my thought re "big
> > > > >>>>> data"/"Big Daddy? as an organizer of human knowledge versus the
> > > > >>>>> present scatterings and specialties.// Yes- I agree most have a
> > gut
> > > > >>>>> reaction- but so do other life forms- it's a survival mechanism.
> > But
> > > > >>>>> it can be distorted.
> > > > >>>>> On Mar 24, 4:12 am, andrew vecsey <andrewvec...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
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> > > > >>>>>> Faked enthusiasm is as easy to spot as fake love. It is like a
> > built
> > > > >>>>>> in
> > > > >>>>>> like a lie detector that god created us with. Sounds like a
> > good way
> > > > >>>>>> to
> > > > >>>>>> detect lying on the internet. You can call it "god" instead of
> > "big
> > > > >>>>>> brother".
> > > > >>>>>> On Saturday, March 23, 2013 6:08:39 PM UTC+1, archytas wrote:
> > > > >>>>>> .....................
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> > > > >>>>>>> Quite what junk DNA is has raised a big recent controversy -
> > gist at
> > > > >>>>>>>http://www.guardian.co.uk/****science/2013/feb/24/**<
> >http://www.guardian.co.uk/**science/2013/feb/24/**>
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> > > > >>>>>> scientists-attacked-ove.<http:**//www.guardian.co.uk/science/**
> > > > >>>>> 2013/feb/24/scientists-**attacked-ove<
> >http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2013/feb/24/scientists-attacked-ove>
> > > > >>>>> .>..
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> > > > >>>>>> I agree with rigs that the term is unfortunate.
> > > > >>>>>>> ........but I could feign 'enthusiasm' ..
> > > > >>>>>>> ........' to detect resistance!  Even this
> > > > >>>>>>> .....no employees dumb enough to support
> > > > >>>>>>> excellence, ......
> > > > >>>>>>> if we spent out time pointing such devices at
> > > > >>>>>>> each other though rigs!  Watch out for the first one minute
> > dating
> > > > >>>>>>> agency providing such!  Arghh" .
> > > > >>>>>>> On Mar 22, 1:06 pm, rigs <rigs...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > >>>>>>>> Junk is an unfortunate adjective- it sounds too random. My
> > guess is
> > > > >>>>>>>> that further selection takes place in this area which selects
> > the
> > > > >>>>>>>> strongest marker- or whatever it's called- such in the color
> > of
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> > > > >>>>>>> eyes,
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> > > > >>>>>> hair, and other characteristics. There are also generational
> > skips
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> > > > >>>>>>> in
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> > > > >>>>>> play. I have noted other strange echoes of a missing parent
> > such as
> > > > >>>>>>>> the style of laughter which is a surprise and so many other
> > > > >>>>>>>> recognitions. At any rate, we are just beginning to sort
> > through
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> > > > >>>>>>> the
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> > > > >>>>>> data in this one area as in others- I think it is called "big
> > data"
> > > > >>>>>>>> which will overcome the religious notion of "sins of the
> > father"
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> > > > >>>>>>> stuff
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> > > > >>>>>> as well as curses and fate and will hopefully allow a more
> > rational
> > > > >>>>>>>> and postive approach/life choices for each unique individual.
> > But
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> > > > >>>>>>> it
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> > > > >>>>>> will also cause mischief.
> > > > >>>>>>>> On Mar 22, 5:16 am, andrew vecsey <andrewvec...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
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> > > > >>>>>>>>> Not
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