Re: Mind's Eye Re: Madness and Sanity

Nope It is people who are kleptocrats not governments,, they include
the super wealth who want and have had laws passed to prevent them
from having to pay taxes. or be sued and a myriad of laws..
kleptocrats,, very interesting word.. starting with its greek origin
klepto // thief in english..

On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 2:44 PM, rigs <rigs117@gmail.com> wrote:
> It probably goes back to thieves and bandits lurking on the Silk Road
> or pirates of the Mediterranean or grants of European kings to the
> conquisadores/explorers. It's also covered in the 10 Commandments.//
> Aren't governments the model kleptocrat? May have also started with
> the English kings demanding taxes- maybe not.// Hopefully, a person
> learns through experience to avoid thieves- probably the hard way,
> unfortunately.
>
> On Feb 22, 12:50 am, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Well Neil,, I only could wish I was that smart. though it will take
>> me quite a while to read through the paper Ii did notice a term i
>> have not seen before kleptocrats -- strange work wen I looked it up I
>> thought it was a newly created word like banksters is only to find
>> whole pages on the term.. but when I went to use itit was not in the
>> spell checker.
>>
>> I glanced at the chart showing corruption,, funny who wrote it..
>>
>> How does a person deal with kleptocrats and corporate kleptocrats..
>> this selfishness is definitely not good for the soul.. Strange how
>> religions seems to hide the soul behind smoke and mirrors rather than
>> understand it..
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 3:28 AM, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >http://www.paecon.net/PAEReview/issue55/Hudson255.pdf
>>
>> > reminded me of you Allan.
>>
>> > I tend to agree rigs - though I think we're being broken by modern
>> > ADMASS of bread and circus rather than welfare per se. People are
>> > alienated by ideological promises. We had the bulk of our lives when
>> > toil brought reasonably fair reward and this is largely gone - but the
>> > exhortations to equal opportunities and fair reward for hard work
>> > remain.
>>
>> > On Feb 21, 2:56 pm, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> self-sufficiency/planning.. == marry into wealth.. that line is
>> >> full of crap.. and though there is some semblance to mid evil courts
>> >> that is all the effect of the legal community and its controlling
>> >> greed. The problem with the legal community many lack morality and
>> >> lying becomes a way of life in the university
>>
>> >> Maybe lawyers need to be band from politics.. and their income from shady deals
>>
>> >> On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 3:29 PM, rigs <rigs...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > Benefits create a dependency versus self-sufficiency/planning. Of
>> >> > course one would feed the beast. It is Medieval- you're right- and
>> >> > governments are such a huge bureaucracy it reminds me of the courts of
>> >> > former kings/queens minus the wigs, hoopskirts and cod-pieces.
>>
>> >> > On Feb 20, 8:42 pm, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> Very thoughtful rigs - though which way do people on benefits vote?
>> >> >> The food stamp would be unnecessary in a world with a decent job
>> >> >> guarantee - there's an interesting Islamic point that society has a
>> >> >> duty to people and that if it does not provide necessities there can
>> >> >> be no crime in taking them. I am now as disgusted with our
>> >> >> professional and rentier classes as I ever was with the Soviet
>> >> >> nomenclature. No one in the Eastern Block believed the Soviet
>> >> >> Paradise jargon even as they uttered it - the officials less than
>> >> >> any. Economic systems are broadly farcical - it has taken us
>> >> >> (apparently) a long time to realise welfare is both food stamps and
>> >> >> bankster bailout - though the Duke of Edinburgh (actually an old Greek
>> >> >> oligarch) told us here in the 1970's that mortgage tax relief was the
>> >> >> biggest welfare cost in the UK. I suspect the current madness is
>> >> >> leading us back to feudalism - that feudalism in which the poor fight
>> >> >> in those parts of wars anyone is likely to die in (very medieval).
>> >> >> I'd bring back the draft to focus attention.
>>
>> >> >> We picked our grandson up from school today - I watched the kids leave
>> >> >> en masse and saw no sign of the pathetic 40% obese or overweight kids
>> >> >> our society is supposedly full of - rather the opposite. We can
>> >> >> guarantee 40% of these kids will be unemployed soon. Very handy for
>> >> >> war mobilisation.
>>
>> >> >> On Feb 20, 5:03 pm, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:> Then Rigsy consider your self blessed the US has not really know war
>> >> >> > on its own soil since the civil war.. but the politicians keep the
>> >> >> > country locked in fear so they can control the population.. the
>> >> >> > world trade center was nothing more than an act of terrorism. (In my
>> >> >> > opinion they demolished two of the ugliest buildings in NYC,, what a
>> >> >> > blessing in disguise.) but this act of terrorism resulted in loss of
>> >> >> > thousands of american lives.. not to say anything about the 200,000
>> >> >> > people murdered by american random sheet bombing.. not counting the 5
>> >> >> > trillion dollars of debt the republican party in the disguise of war..
>>
>> >> >> > It is this reckless spending that brought on the rescission the world
>> >> >> > is in right now.. and yet the people who actually caused it are
>> >> >> > pointing at everything and everyone else other than themselves..
>>
>> >> >> > On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 3:37 PM, rigs <rigs...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> > > Civil divisions, disorders, crimes and general suspicion and unrest
>> >> >> > > cannot be called wars if one is looking for redcoats or the
>> >> >> > > Confederates marching down the street. The postman bringing bills is
>> >> >> > > certainly a genial chap. And we have such a razzle-dazzle culture to
>> >> >> > > enertains us, don't we? The internet has expanded the hype- our
>> >> >> > > opinions in print- we create our own fame at last! Everyday there's
>> >> >> > > something to distract us- far more interesting than the value of our
>> >> >> > > dollar or food prices. Everyone on food stamps is in the pocket of a
>> >> >> > > politician. One may not live to eat but eats to live, afterall.
>>
>> >> >> > > On Feb 20, 12:47 am, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> > >> Well the war in Iraq was the sole cause of Bush and his Cronies..
>> >> >> > >> and there never has been a war in the IS other than the revolutionary
>> >> >> > >> war. the civil war and the invasion of Canada,, the so called drug
>> >> >> > >> war is just law enforcement that and that is easier to control with
>> >> >> > >> taxes than jail..
>>
>> >> >> > >> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 10:52 PM, rigs <rigs...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> > >> > I did vote- just not for the winners.
>>
>> >> >> > >> > War has not been avoided. The battleground has been moved abroad-
>> >> >> > >> > that's all.
>>
>> >> >> > >> > On Feb 19, 10:38 am, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> > >> >> Ah from what I gather you did not vote.. thats okay they don't bother
>> >> >> > >> >> to count my vote either .. Islam well it is something else..
>> >> >> > >> >> liberals drive me as crazy as conservatives do
>>
>> >> >> > >> >> As for what europe has done to avoid war.. well try the EU to start
>> >> >> > >> >> the purpose is to avoid war again.. that is the main function..
>> >> >> > >> >> Trading block is just secondary..
>>
>> >> >> > >> >> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 2:26 PM, rigs <rigs...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> > >> >> > Distrusted Islam from the very beginning.
>>
>> >> >> > >> >> > Did not vote for Bush41, Clinton either time, Bush43 either time or
>> >> >> > >> >> > Obama either time.
>>
>> >> >> > >> >> > Dropped relationships and affiliations that suscribed to loony
>> >> >> > >> >> > Liberalism.
>>
>> >> >> > >> >> > Just waited like the rest of humanity to watch the chaos unfold.
>>
>> >> >> > >> >> > Post 9-11, is probably the point of no return.
>>
>> >> >> > >> >> > What did Europe and Britain do to avoid the wars of the 20th C.? I
>> >> >> > >> >> > doubt a trade agreement with the EU will make a difference. The
>> >> >> > >> >> > balance of power has tilted. Just don't send us horsemeat- it reminds
>> >> >> > >> >> > me of Napoleon's deadly retreat from Russia.
>>
>> >> >> > >> >> > On Feb 19, 1:56 am, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> > >> >> >> What you don't realize our pathetic response as you put it was done
>> >> >> > >> >> >> under Nixon,, and that pathetic also effectively ended terrorism
>> >> >> > >> >> >> within the US.. you didn't even know it was going on.. And Ii am not
>> >> >> > >> >> >> for any party in reality.. republican or democrat.. What I am is for
>> >> >> > >> >> >> the USA fighting for which cost me my health..
>>
>> >> >> > >> >> >> Starting with Reagan the terrorist threat became a none priority,
>> >> >> > >> >> >> ripping off the government and elimination of taxes on the
>> >> >> > >> >> >> wealthiest.. hat became the focus,, not taking care of the all
>> >> >> > >> >> >> citizens of the US.. The greatest part of this activity has occurred
>> >> >> > >> >> >> under the control of the republican extremist politicians disguising
>> >> >> > >> >> >> themselves as conservatives.
>>
>> >> >> > >> >> >> Under Bill Clinton the National debt came down despite the best
>> >> >> > >> >> >> efforts of the house and senate.. What happened to the line item veto
>> >> >> > >> >> >> that the republican fought so hard to get,, when it was used against
>> >> >> > >> >> >> their special programs???
>>
>> >> >> > >> >> >> Bush Sr had to get into a limited war with Iraq to protect Kawait..
>> >> >> > >> >> >> when that was done he with drew. I liked President Nixon, worked under
>> >> >> > >> >> >> him and even meet him.. I try to look at people and base my like or
>> >> >> > >> >> >> dislike by their actions,, I will support good actions and bad actions
>> >> >> > >> >> >> I will not support....
>>
>> >> >> > >> >> >> In Europe what was going on in Iraq was well known and that was to
>> >> >> > >> >> >> what The US was trying to sell.. .. In the US they only knew what
>> >> >> > >> >> >> the political parties were selling them.. You had a failing
>> >> >> > >> >> >> government and administration that would grab any old straw to make
>> >> >> > >> >> >> them look good.
>>
>> >> >> > >> >> >> September 11th was the straw they grabbed and sold to the american
>> >> >> > >> >> >> public.. playing on and instilling their fear.. anything to survive
>> >> >> > >> >> >> rather than use common sense.. They got the excuse to impose their
>> >> >> > >> >> >> extreme what if solution.
>>
>> >> >> > >> >> >> Now Rigsy tell us just what you did to prevent terrorism pre Sept 11??
>>
>> >> >> > >> >> >> On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 11:22 PM, rigs <rigs...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> > >> >> >> > No,
>>
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