Friday, February 22, 2013

Re: Mind's Eye Re: Madness and Sanity

I don't accept that formula although it was a factor in pre-romantic
courtship- mostly about land or inheritance and functions now as a
system in certain societies. However, it happens: Kerry married two
heiresses but some heiresses had terrible luck: Duke and the Woolworth
heiress, for instance, plus now, pre-nuptials are more acceptable. No-
money has little to do with self-sufficiency and planning- those are
individual personality qualities.// The university systems have become
beds of socialism. Governments are packed with patronage-clerks-
bureaus. We need lawyers to unscramble the fine print of the
legislators and oppose them when necessary.

On Feb 21, 8:56 am, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> self-sufficiency/planning..   ==  marry into wealth..   that line is
> full of crap..  and though there is some semblance to mid evil courts
> that is all the effect of the legal community and its controlling
> greed. The problem with the legal community   many lack morality and
> lying becomes a way of life in the university
>
> Maybe lawyers need to be band from politics.. and their income from shady deals
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 3:29 PM, rigs <rigs...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Benefits create a dependency versus self-sufficiency/planning. Of
> > course one would feed the beast. It is Medieval- you're right- and
> > governments are such a huge bureaucracy it reminds me of the courts of
> > former kings/queens minus the wigs, hoopskirts and cod-pieces.
>
> > On Feb 20, 8:42 pm, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Very thoughtful rigs - though which way do people on benefits vote?
> >> The food stamp would be unnecessary in a world with a decent job
> >> guarantee - there's an interesting Islamic point that society has a
> >> duty to people and that if it does not provide necessities there can
> >> be no crime in taking them.  I am now as disgusted with our
> >> professional and rentier classes as I ever was with the Soviet
> >> nomenclature.  No one in the Eastern Block believed the Soviet
> >> Paradise jargon even as they uttered it - the officials less than
> >> any.  Economic systems are broadly farcical - it has taken us
> >> (apparently) a long time to realise welfare is both food stamps and
> >> bankster bailout - though the Duke of Edinburgh (actually an old Greek
> >> oligarch) told us here in the 1970's that mortgage tax relief was the
> >> biggest welfare cost in the UK.  I suspect the current madness is
> >> leading us back to feudalism - that feudalism in which the poor fight
> >> in those parts of wars anyone is likely to die in (very medieval).
> >> I'd bring back the draft to focus attention.
>
> >> We picked our grandson up from school today - I watched the kids leave
> >> en masse and saw no sign of the pathetic 40% obese or overweight kids
> >> our society is supposedly full of - rather the opposite.  We can
> >> guarantee 40% of these kids will be unemployed soon.  Very handy for
> >> war mobilisation.
>
> >> On Feb 20, 5:03 pm, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:> Then Rigsy consider your self blessed the US has not really know war
> >> > on its own soil since the civil war..   but the politicians keep the
> >> > country locked in fear so they can control the population..   the
> >> > world trade center was nothing more than an act of terrorism. (In my
> >> > opinion they demolished two of the ugliest buildings in NYC,,  what a
> >> > blessing in disguise.)  but this act of terrorism resulted in loss of
> >> > thousands of american lives.. not to say anything about the 200,000
> >> > people murdered by american random sheet bombing..  not counting the 5
> >> > trillion dollars of debt the republican party in the disguise of war..
>
> >> > It is this reckless spending that brought on the rescission the world
> >> > is in right now..  and yet the people who actually caused it are
> >> > pointing at everything and everyone else other than themselves..
>
> >> > On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 3:37 PM, rigs <rigs...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > > Civil divisions, disorders, crimes and general suspicion and unrest
> >> > > cannot be called wars if one is looking for redcoats or the
> >> > > Confederates marching down the street. The postman bringing bills is
> >> > > certainly a genial chap. And we have such a razzle-dazzle culture to
> >> > > enertains us, don't we? The internet has expanded the hype- our
> >> > > opinions in print- we create our own fame at last! Everyday there's
> >> > > something to distract us- far more interesting than the value of our
> >> > > dollar or food prices. Everyone on food stamps is in the pocket of a
> >> > > politician. One may not live to eat but eats to live, afterall.
>
> >> > > On Feb 20, 12:47 am, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > >> Well the war in Iraq was the sole cause of Bush and his Cronies..
> >> > >> and there never has been a war in the IS  other than the revolutionary
> >> > >> war. the civil war and the invasion of Canada,,  the so called drug
> >> > >> war is just law enforcement that and that is easier to control with
> >> > >> taxes than jail..
>
> >> > >> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 10:52 PM, rigs <rigs...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > >> > I did vote- just not for the winners.
>
> >> > >> > War has not been avoided. The battleground has been moved abroad-
> >> > >> > that's all.
>
> >> > >> > On Feb 19, 10:38 am, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > >> >> Ah from what I gather you did not vote..  thats okay they don't bother
> >> > >> >> to count my vote either    ..  Islam well it is something else..
> >> > >> >> liberals drive me as crazy as conservatives do
>
> >> > >> >> As for what europe has done to avoid war..  well  try the EU to start
> >> > >> >>  the purpose is to avoid war  again..  that is the main function..
> >> > >> >> Trading block is just secondary..
>
> >> > >> >> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 2:26 PM, rigs <rigs...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > >> >> > Distrusted Islam from the very beginning.
>
> >> > >> >> > Did not vote for Bush41, Clinton either time, Bush43 either time or
> >> > >> >> > Obama either time.
>
> >> > >> >> > Dropped relationships and affiliations that suscribed to loony
> >> > >> >> > Liberalism.
>
> >> > >> >> > Just waited like the rest of humanity to watch the chaos unfold.
>
> >> > >> >> > Post 9-11, is probably the point of no return.
>
> >> > >> >> > What did Europe and Britain do to avoid the wars of the 20th C.? I
> >> > >> >> > doubt a trade agreement with the EU will make a difference. The
> >> > >> >> > balance of power has tilted. Just don't send us horsemeat- it reminds
> >> > >> >> > me of Napoleon's deadly retreat from Russia.
>
> >> > >> >> > On Feb 19, 1:56 am, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > >> >> >> What you don't realize our pathetic response as you put it was done
> >> > >> >> >> under Nixon,, and that pathetic also effectively ended terrorism
> >> > >> >> >> within the US..  you didn't even know it was going on..  And Ii am not
> >> > >> >> >> for any party in reality.. republican or democrat.. What I am is for
> >> > >> >> >> the USA  fighting for which cost me my health..
>
> >> > >> >> >> Starting with Reagan the terrorist threat became a none priority,
> >> > >> >> >> ripping off the government and elimination of taxes on the
> >> > >> >> >> wealthiest.. hat became the focus,,  not taking care of the all
> >> > >> >> >> citizens of the US.. The greatest part of this activity has occurred
> >> > >> >> >> under the control  of the republican extremist politicians disguising
> >> > >> >> >> themselves as conservatives.
>
> >> > >> >> >> Under Bill Clinton the National debt came down despite the best
> >> > >> >> >> efforts of the house and senate..  What happened to the line item veto
> >> > >> >> >> that the republican fought so hard to get,,  when it was used against
> >> > >> >> >> their special programs???
>
> >> > >> >> >> Bush Sr had to get into a limited war with Iraq to protect Kawait..
> >> > >> >> >> when that was done he with drew. I liked President Nixon, worked under
> >> > >> >> >> him and even meet him..  I try to look at people and base my like or
> >> > >> >> >> dislike by their actions,, I will support good actions and bad actions
> >> > >> >> >>  I will not support....
>
> >> > >> >> >> In Europe what was going on in Iraq was well known and that was to
> >> > >> >> >> what The US was trying to sell..  ..  In the US they only knew what
> >> > >> >> >> the political parties were selling them..  You had a failing
> >> > >> >> >> government and administration that would grab any old straw to make
> >> > >> >> >> them look good.
>
> >> > >> >> >> September 11th was the straw  they grabbed and sold to the american
> >> > >> >> >> public..  playing on and instilling their fear..  anything to survive
> >> > >> >> >> rather than use common sense..  They got the excuse to impose their
> >> > >> >> >> extreme what if solution.
>
> >> > >> >> >> Now Rigsy tell us just what you did to prevent terrorism pre Sept 11??
>
> >> > >> >> >> On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 11:22 PM, rigs <rigs...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > >> >> >> > No, Allan. America finally understood we were at war on 9-11 and in
> >> > >> >> >> > wartime the government is entitled to take extraordinary measures. I
> >> > >> >> >> > could unreel our pathetic response to terrorism a few decades back but
> >> > >> >> >> > it would involve your precious Democrats.
>
> >> > >> >> >> > On Feb 17, 6:35 am, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > >> >> >> >>  Rigsy  there was no precedents tor the original Home land security
> >> > >> >> >> >> regulations,,  they were a pre planned action in a what if scenario ..
> >> > >> >> >> >> one created by the elitist party which at the moment is doing a good
> >> > >> >> >> >> job of controlling the republican party..
>
> >> > >> >> >> >> The precedent is controlling by fear..  and that is what the
> >> > >> >> >> >> republican party is extremely good at doing..
> >> > >> >> >> >> especially the conservative right..   which thirty years ago was the
> >> > >> >> >> >> extreme right..
>
> >> > >> >> >> >> Now they are against abortion and saying there is nothing wrong with
> >> > >> >> >> >> the war crimes and crimes against humanity committed by the weasel
> >> > >> >> >> >> bush and his colleges..  and yes they are looking into that and
> >> > >> >> >> >> gathering the evidence needed for a trial and conviction..
>
> >> > >> >> >> >> On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 1:19 PM, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > >> >> >> >> > Right precedent   ---  let mesee  ---    they did it before and got
> >> > >> >> >> >> > away with it..
>
> >> > >> >> >> >> > On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 12:24 PM, rigs <rigs...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > >> >> >> >> >> There were
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