Re: Mind's Eye Re: Green Issues (might make some 'green')

I am sure Gabby your friend is highly accurate at her job or employment..
I never realized the soil loss until I was driving truck across mid
west in the US.. there you can see a 16 cm difference between the
fence line and the crop surface,, thus difference is from the crops
removing soil matter from the land. This loss needs to be replaced.
and that can be very difficult to do.. if your friend is saying the
soil does not need supplements she can be right ass it can be quite
rich.. believe me if you are farming you have soil loss due to plants
using up the resources. the long you wait the more difficult it
becomes.. even in my flower garden I replace approximately 4 cm every
year..


On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 8:41 AM, gabbydott <gabbydott@gmail.com> wrote:
> First, Allan, my friend is my friend, who happens to be earning her living
> by doing her employer's book-keeping. Secondly, the books are never
> officially out of balance, even when being checked by the finance office,
> because she is doing the book-keeping and not her boss. And yes, her wage
> amount has been forgotten to be dynamically integrated into that forever
> cyclic process for more than 10 years. But this is not his fault, this is
> hers. Is it not?
>
>
> 2013/2/27 Allan H <allanh1946@gmail.com>
>>
>> Gabby your accountant friend deeds to examine his books as is
>> forgetting to add in some of his credits like the amount of soil the
>> plant uses to grow and is not replaced when we harvest that crop.. in
>> other words his books are out of balance.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 10:57 PM, gabbydott <gabbydott@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Looking far and big is one option of going beyond common sense
>> > limitations.
>> > My best friend does that on a much smaller scale for her employer and
>> > his
>> > different companies by doing his book-keeping. Their well-being is
>> > firmly
>> > rooted in interdependency already, no further soil improvement is
>> > needed to
>> > mix the balance up.
>> >
>> >
>> > 2013/2/26 archytas <nwterry@gmail.com>
>> >>
>> >> Stuff from the UK plants goes to farms - soil improvement. I sense
>> >> there is plenty of money that could go into such schemes. Despite $1.1
>> >> billion in pre-tax profits from its US operations in 2012, Facebook
>> >> didn't pay any federal or state income taxes in the US—in fact it will
>> >> collect net tax refunds totaling $429 million (owing to some stock
>> >> option dodge).
>> >>
>> >> On 26 Feb, 14:59, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > Ah, I see that the English language definitely needs an update for us
>> >> > to
>> >> > be
>> >> > able to communicate at - at least - nose level. What you call 'waste
>> >> > trade'
>> >> > and ' trade of recyclables' we call 'Wertstoffhandel', which
>> >> > literally
>> >> > translates, no not 'resource trade', but 'trading with substances of
>> >> > value'.
>> >> >
>> >> > 2013/2/26 Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > > I know recycling has to become a major part of our world and life
>> >> >
>> >> > > On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 8:05 AM, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com>
>> >> > > wrote:
>> >> > > > Not sure what exactly I'm replying to, because I do believe
>> >> > > > seeking
>> >> > > mutually
>> >> > > > beneficial outcomes is a good thing. The way that 'mutually' is
>> >> > > achieved or
>> >> > > > generated is the problematic aspect in my view.
>> >> >
>> >> > > > 2013/2/26 James <ashkas...@gmail.com>
>> >> >
>> >> > > >> I've been wondering, what was scary about seeking mutually
>> >> > > >> beneficial
>> >> > > >> outcomes gabby? Seems I'm a master at the failed followup. :p
>> >> >
>> >> > > >> On 2/25/2013 2:40 PM, gabbydott wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > > >> Oh, yes, that's of course a good point!
>> >> >
>> >> > > >> 2013/2/25 archytas <nwte...@gmail.com>
>> >> >
>> >> > > >>> We have large scale versions in the UK - the muck is treated
>> >> > > >>> and
>> >> > > >>> pathogens removed. It was once called night soil here. Quite
>> >> > > >>> what
>> >> > > >>> precautions are taken in India is a bit scary. My point
>> >> > > >>> largely
>> >> > > >>> concerns the possibility of a 40% fertiliser reduction and how
>> >> > > >>> many
>> >> > > >>> more examples could be drawn into an economic plan. Fishing
>> >> > > >>> gear
>> >> > > >>> is
>> >> > > >>> being changed to do less damage to the sea bed and reduce the
>> >> > > >>> ludicrous amount of stock dumped at sea because it doesn't
>> >> > > >>> match
>> >> > > >>> rules
>> >> > > >>> on what can be landed - pilot projects have reduced 'throw
>> >> > > >>> back'
>> >> > > >>> from
>> >> > > >>> 37% to less than one.
>> >> >
>> >> > > >>> On 25 Feb, 11:12, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > > >>> > Interesting. I've had this issue categorized under "the fresh
>> >> > > >>> > water
>> >> > > >>> > waste
>> >> > > >>> > in toilets". There are some much greener solutions on the
>> >> > > >>> > market.
>> >> >
>> >> > > >>> > 2013/2/25 rigs <rigs...@gmail.com>
>> >> >
>> >> > > >>> > > Isn't this called "night soil"- no pun intended. What about
>> >> > > >>> > > the
>> >> > > >>> > > spreading of disease via human/animal waste?
>> >> >
>> >> > > >>> > > On Feb 24, 1:43 pm, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > > >>> > > > You produce some 500 litres of urine and 50 kilograms of
>> >> > > >>> > > > faecesa
>> >> > > >>> > > > year. Besides the water and organic carbon, your annual
>> >> > > >>> > > > output
>> >> > > >>> > > > contains around 10 kilograms of nitrogen, phosphorus and
>> >> > > potassium
>> >> > > >>> > > > compounds, the three main nutrients plants need to grow -
>> >> > > helpfully
>> >> > > >>> > > > in
>> >> > > >>> > > > roughly the correct proportions. This is sufficient to
>> >> > > >>> > > > fertilise
>> >> > > >>> > > > plants that would produce more than 200 kilograms of
>> >> > > >>> > > > cereals,
>> >> > > says
>> >> > > >>> > > > Christine Werner of the German development agency GIZ.
>> >> >
>> >> > > >>> > > > Scale that up and the world's population excretes 70
>> >> > > >>> > > > million
>> >> > > tonnes
>> >> > > >>> > > > of
>> >> > > >>> > > > nutrients annually. Applied to fields, this could replace
>> >> > > almost 40
>> >> > > >>> > > > per cent of the 176 million tonnes of nutrients in
>> >> > > >>> > > > chemical
>> >> > > >>> > > > fertilisers used by the world's farmers in 2011 - from
>> >> > > >>> > > > New
>> >> > > >>> > > > Scientist.
>> >> >
>> >> > > >>> > > > There are loads of ways to redeploy human waste - from
>> >> > > >>> > > > planting a
>> >> > > >>> > > > banana tree so it roots under the latrine hut to large
>> >> > > >>> > > > sewage
>> >> > > >>> > > > treatment (an entrepreneurial solution can be found in
>> >> > > >>> > > > India
>> >> > > >>> > > > -
>> >> > > they
>> >> > > >>> > > > are know locally as honey-suckers). I wonder how any
>> >> > > >>> > > > such
>> >> > > areas we
>> >> > > >>> > > > could identify and get into action projects under an
>> >> > > international
>> >> > > >>> > > > project system run on an enterprise basis?
>> >> >
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