Thursday, January 31, 2013

Re: Mind's Eye Re: Question of Purpose

We don't understand the homicide bombers well rigs - I suspect their
motivation is similar to that of those who do stuff like landing on an
enemy airstrip and shooting it up. We revere similar acts of heroism
or madness. And forget what perversions of Christianity are
perpetrated in crusade. Who is even to say human purpose is human?
We may be the forerunner of something very different. Purpose may lie
in looking after RP's examples.

On 29 Jan, 19:39, rigs <rigs.'t .@gmail.com> wrote:
> There is an oft repeated saying that the road to Hell is paved with
> good intentions. (St. Bernard, Herbert, Shaw, Samuel Johnson) Is there
> a difference between purpose and intention?
> don> On Jan 28, 6:54 am, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > I think this is a useful split RP - though I tend to wonder on purpose
> > in evolution.  There are many examples of animal altruism coming to
> > light - I mentioned the 'slave ants in rebellion' recently but one
> > finds similar even amongst algae that live, for the most part, as
> > single-celled, but gang together when resources run out to 'flip' some
> > of the community to parts elsewhere by forming a stem with a flippable
> > node on top - those in the stem remain behind and die.  We might
> > achieve world peace in human affairs (long overdue) only to be hit and
> > killed by a massive gamma burst from deep space.  I wonder beyond this
> > as to a potential human purpose in a spiritual world - perhaps beyond
> > biological intelligence, perhaps with life embodied in machines and
> > later in the universe itself as 'we' really learn more.  Against long-
> > term history 'we' are unlikely to survive as humans (though the algae
> > have been around much longer) and I suspect 'we' are deluded on human
> > individuality other than in the human world.
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> > On Jan 28, 11:57 am, RP Singh <123...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > To me there is human-purpose , yes , but no spiritual purpose. I was
> > > just using rhetoric in my original post.
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> > > On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 4:15 PM, Lee Douglas <leerevdoug...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Hahah ohh RP you are one confusing fellow.
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> > > > Let me see if I follow this correctly.  You define spiritual purpose as
> > > > being something that takes you beyond death, but your own belief is that
> > > > nobody goes beyond death, so then to you spiritual purpose is what, an
> > > > oxymoron?
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> > > > On Monday, 28 January 2013 09:58:43 UTC, RP Singh wrote:
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> > > >> I look after my children because I love them , I am moral because I
> > > >> want to remain a good person , but all these are human purposes. The
> > > >> spiritual purpose would be to take you beyond death. In my opinion
> > > >> nobody goes beyond death.
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> > > >> On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 4:00 AM, Lee Douglas <leerev...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> > Umm maybe there is none RP.
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> > > >> > What do you mean by spiritual purpose?
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> > > >> > On Monday, 21 January 2013 12:31:34 UTC, RP Singh wrote:
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> > > >> >> An old man suffers a stroke and becomes a vegetable for the rest of his
> > > >> >> life , a one year old child becomes sick and dies. What is the purpose
> > > >> >> , the
> > > >> >> spiritual purpose for the old man or the child ?
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