Re: Mind's Eye Women's Issues

Hubble, bubble, toil and trouble perhaps James? I have lived in
sexist societies - our term at the time was homosocial. Dire, except
in learning how they got round the rules. But the topics I found in
books and papers never quite seemed women's issues - at least not the
stuff that bothered Mum, my sister and cousins and later the mature
students I taught. I agree with Allan - so I'm off to have me old
head tested!

On 3 Dec, 05:02, James <ashkas...@gmail.com> wrote:
> We should train dogs to be managers, the one in A Boy and His Dog had a
> leg up on everyone. Our pup gave me a look the other day that made me
> wonder, did he just tell me 'better to keep your mouth shut', or was it
> my imagination? Heh, I get the feeling that my elders are testing me
> when complaining about women (especially the older). I wonder if
> characters like John Wayne in The Quiet Man and the previously mentioned
> one were more an attempt at making humor than guidance in any form.
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> I'm leaning toward your take Allan, many of the complaints I've heard
> are self-reinforcing. But then liberal education can have a sinister
> effect in blanketing novel perceptions with institutional pedagogy and
> producing naive idealism. Something a few members here have said in
> better words I think. Some have said that we have no real comprehension
> of an egalitarian or meritocratic society in America beyond a book
> definition, I say if this is true the answer would be found in
> generational and class discontinuity, our isolationist tendencies that
> promote either self-reinforcing over-generalizations or reactionary
> hypersensitivity and puritanical poo. Despite everything (a long word),
> from my earliest memory until today the strongest person I've ever known
> is a woman. What a frustrating topic, we all have strengths and
> weaknesses, even the strongest.
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> On 12/2/2012 4:01 AM, Allan H wrote:
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> > my problem is other than child birth (brat hatchen) I really do see
> > much difference between the genders, I think a well developed
> > personality contains all of the personality traits.
> > Allan
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> > Now now  calm down...
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> > On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 3:16 AM, archytas<nwte...@gmail.com>  wrote:
> >> My next questions are on what gender issues hide.  But really this is
> >> just a path to people I teach choosing their own paths.  It's very
> >> hard not to be directive and I usually suggest the philosophic muck
> >> means less to me than one word in personal insurrection.  I might ask,
> >> in the right company, 'what the little women have to say'.  One has to
> >> take the risk somewhere to break the supplication of academic
> >> discipline.
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> >> On 1 Dec, 17:01, gabbydott<gabbyd...@gmail.com>  wrote:
> >>> That question is settled then. What's the next?
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> >>> 2012/12/1 archytas<nwte...@gmail.com>
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> >>>> The Body
> >>>> Class and Work
> >>>> Disability
> >>>> Discrimination
> >>>> Equality of Opportunity
> >>>> Identity Politics
> >>>> Multiculturalism
> >>>> Objectification
> >>>> Parenthood and Procreation
> >>>> Power
> >>>> Race
> >>>> Rape
> >>>> Reproduction and the Family
> >>>> Science
> >>>> The Self
> >>>> Sex and Gender
> >>>> Sex Markets
> >>>> Trans Issues
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> >>>> These are just some of the topics I thought I could put forward in
> >>>> teaching gender issues in management.  They underlie the bland
> >>>> politically correct policy matters.  One thing has always occurred to
> >>>> me as missing in every debate I can remember.  Women are as bad as men
> >>>> as managers.  I equate equality with hospitality (always two-sided at
> >>>> least) and suspect we don't realise behaviour is much less to do with
> >>>> gender or the individual than we think and perhaps has little to do
> >>>> with rationality.  I don't think we see the wood for the trees on
> >>>> gender.
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> >>>> --
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> >> --

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