Re: Mind's Eye Re: A Book At Xmas or two

It may be the rich have more opportunities and exposure, Allan. Human
nature is human nature. Also, celebrity creates another kind of
challenge as the artist types gain fame and fortune- often to laugh at
their own popularity and adulation of the public and critics- Picasso
comes to mind, for instance- have a savage quote of his around here
somewhere.

On Dec 25, 8:04 am, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Oddly I think you have a better chance for good ethics among the poor
> over the rich,
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> On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 1:25 PM, Molly <mollyb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I wonder if the researchers took into account that a truly ethical person
> > would not participate in the kind of rubbish that presents predictable
> > limited outcomes as fact.  There may, indeed, be a correlation between
> > creativity and ethics, but I suspect it is more inclusive and requires
> > examination without the limits designed to define results. I keep going back
> > to the model of spiral dynamics, one that allows and understands that we all
> > move up and down and between memes during our lives given the circumstances
> > of our experience.  Someone who does not have enough money for food may
> > cheat in this experiment more than someone who has never known financial
> > stress or hunger.  Here is a pretty good explanation of the original Graves
> > material, although I've seen better, its the best I could find online this
> > morning.http://www.edumar.cl/documentos/SD_version_for_constellation5.pdf
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> > On Monday, December 24, 2012 5:58:21 PM UTC-5, archytas wrote:
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> >> A free paper with the ideas is at
> >>http://www.hbs.edu/faculty/Publication%20Files/11-064.pdf
> >> I was interested because I find professional ethics and religious
> >> morality collapse under circumstances of self-interest and become
> >> rationalisation.  WE need creative solutions - but there is a dark
> >> side to creativity.
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> >> On 24 Dec, 22:03, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >  "The (Honest) Truth About Dishonesty: How We Lie to Everyone —
> >> > Especially Ourselves" by Dan Ariely asks a seemingly simple question —
> >> > "is dishonesty largely restricted to a few bad apples, or is it a more
> >> > widespread problem?" — and goes on to reveal the surprising,
> >> > illuminating, often unsettling truths that underpin the uncomfortable
> >> > answer. Like cruelty, dishonesty turns out to be a remarkably
> >> > prevalent phenomenon better explained by circumstances and cognitive
> >> > processes than by concepts like character.
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> >> > Work like this is challenging traditional economics - the genre is
> >> > 'behavioural economics'.  My own take on this book and a lot of work
> >> > from brain science and history is that we are at a tipping point in
> >> > respect of the possibility of a human science.  I'd like to see a
> >> > broader literature take up this challenge beyond current drivel on
> >> > black and white hats.
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> >> > So what are you guys reading?
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