Sunday, December 30, 2012

Re: Mind's Eye Re: A Book At Xmas or two

We're still the envy of the world, Allan. Why?

On Dec 28, 2:44 pm, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> good and generous rich??   who are those??  How come are there so many
> people are living in povety in the US  the severe lack of employment
> excessive cost in health insurance??   a republican congress that only
> wants to protect the rich..
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> you say good and generous rich..    i know some Rigsy but they are not
> in the majority.
> Allan
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> On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 7:14 PM, rigs <rigs...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > The rich also have a more complicated life to trip up and the media
> > pays them more attention than the daily crime reports of rather
> > anonymous criminals. The poor and uneducated may be perfectly
> > comfortable in their cultural traps. Does one need higher standards to
> > be the "good"/generous rich? Who will fund charity and taxes, my dear?
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> > On Dec 27, 3:15 am, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Yes the rich have more opportunities and exposure to make more
> >> wealth..  why would you say that is Rigsy?? Why are not these
> >> opportunities and exposure created for the poor? ..  they are the ones
> >> that need it.  or could it be part of the perks of worshiping at the
> >> feet of the golden calf??
> >> Allan
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> >> On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 2:49 AM, rigs <rigs...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > It may be the rich have more opportunities and exposure, Allan. Human
> >> > nature is human nature. Also, celebrity creates another kind of
> >> > challenge as the artist types gain fame and fortune- often to laugh at
> >> > their own popularity and adulation of the public and critics- Picasso
> >> > comes to mind, for instance- have a savage quote of his around here
> >> > somewhere.
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> >> > On Dec 25, 8:04 am, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> Oddly I think you have a better chance for good ethics among the poor
> >> >> over the rich,
> >> >> Allan
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> >> >> On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 1:25 PM, Molly <mollyb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> > I wonder if the researchers took into account that a truly ethical person
> >> >> > would not participate in the kind of rubbish that presents predictable
> >> >> > limited outcomes as fact.  There may, indeed, be a correlation between
> >> >> > creativity and ethics, but I suspect it is more inclusive and requires
> >> >> > examination without the limits designed to define results. I keep going back
> >> >> > to the model of spiral dynamics, one that allows and understands that we all
> >> >> > move up and down and between memes during our lives given the circumstances
> >> >> > of our experience.  Someone who does not have enough money for food may
> >> >> > cheat in this experiment more than someone who has never known financial
> >> >> > stress or hunger.  Here is a pretty good explanation of the original Graves
> >> >> > material, although I've seen better, its the best I could find online this
> >> >> > morning.http://www.edumar.cl/documentos/SD_version_for_constellation5.pdf
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> >> >> > On Monday, December 24, 2012 5:58:21 PM UTC-5, archytas wrote:
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> >> >> >> A free paper with the ideas is at
> >> >> >>http://www.hbs.edu/faculty/Publication%20Files/11-064.pdf
> >> >> >> I was interested because I find professional ethics and religious
> >> >> >> morality collapse under circumstances of self-interest and become
> >> >> >> rationalisation.  WE need creative solutions - but there is a dark
> >> >> >> side to creativity.
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> >> >> >> On 24 Dec, 22:03, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >  "The (Honest) Truth About Dishonesty: How We Lie to Everyone —
> >> >> >> > Especially Ourselves" by Dan Ariely asks a seemingly simple question —
> >> >> >> > "is dishonesty largely restricted to a few bad apples, or is it a more
> >> >> >> > widespread problem?" — and goes on to reveal the surprising,
> >> >> >> > illuminating, often unsettling truths that underpin the uncomfortable
> >> >> >> > answer. Like cruelty, dishonesty turns out to be a remarkably
> >> >> >> > prevalent phenomenon better explained by circumstances and cognitive
> >> >> >> > processes than by concepts like character.
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> >> >> >> > Work like this is challenging traditional economics - the genre is
> >> >> >> > 'behavioural economics'.  My own take on this book and a lot of work
> >> >> >> > from brain science and history is that we are at a tipping point in
> >> >> >> > respect of the possibility of a human science.  I'd like to see a
> >> >> >> > broader literature take up this challenge beyond current drivel on
> >> >> >> > black and white hats.
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> >> >> >> > So what are you guys reading?
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> >> >> --
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> >> >>   )
> >> >> |_D Allan
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> >> >> Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.
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> >> >> Of course I talk to myself,
> >> >> Sometimes I need expert advice..- Hide quoted text -
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> >> |_D Allan
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> >> Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.
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> >> Of course I talk to myself,
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> |_D Allan
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> Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.
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