Re: Mind's Eye Instinct for survival

That is very true Lee very true,, but there is more supporting
evidence for the concepts of God..
Allan

On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Lee Douglas <leerevdouglas@gmail.com> wrote:
> Heh the same can be said about any and all concepts of God.
>
> On Tuesday, 4 December 2012 16:07:03 UTC, Allan Heretic wrote:
>>
>> a series of creation is at best a wild guess with no supporting evidence..
>> Allan
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 4:42 PM, RP Singh <123...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > You can pinpoint the beginning of this universe but not that of
>> > Creation with its series of universes.
>> >
>> > On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 9:03 PM, Allan H <allan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> That is not true the beginning can be pretty much pinpointed .. as
>> >> for
>> >> parallel universes that is just a wild guess with nothing to support
>> >> the
>> >> other than it sounds good. There is more evidence supporting the
>> >> spiritual
>> >> realm than parallel universes
>> >> Allan
>> >>
>> >> Matrix ** th3 beginning light
>> >>
>> >> On Dec 4, 2012 2:26 PM, "RP Singh" <123...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> In my view there is no beginning to creation. There is beginning and
>> >>> end to universes There are infinite no. of universes in parallel and
>> >>> continuously many universes are being born and many are dying , but
>> >>> Creation which includes infinite universes in eternal time , just like
>> >>> the Spirit, is without beginning and without end. The difference is
>> >>> that the nature of creation is dualistic and the Spirit is non-dual.
>> >>>
>> >>> On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 5:34 PM, Lee Douglas <leerev...@gmail.com>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>> > Hello Andrew,
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Heh I can envisage many things, but alas many of them are not true.
>> >>> > I
>> >>> > distinguish between two things, matter and spirit. Mattter is all
>> >>> > that
>> >>> > is
>> >>> > physical, which includes physical 'matter' and also energy. To me
>> >>> > there
>> >>> > is
>> >>> > no paradox of who created the creator. Before the begining there
>> >>> > was
>> >>> > only
>> >>> > God, God in spirit, and God created the creation out of the spirt of
>> >>> > God.
>> >>> > That is all matter comes from spirit.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > On Friday, 30 November 2012 18:32:43 UTC, andrew vecsey wrote:
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Lee, I can see where all matter has to have an energy component to
>> >>> >> it
>> >>> >> because matter is manifested as atoms which have motion in them.
>> >>> >> But I
>> >>> >> could
>> >>> >> also envision pure motion without involving any atoms...like a
>> >>> >> vibration in
>> >>> >> the fabric of space,
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> On Friday, November 30, 2012 5:53:26 PM UTC+1, Lee Douglas wrote:
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> Heh except of course that when it comes right down to it.energy is
>> >>> >>> matter
>> >>> >>> and matter is energy.
>> >>> >>> On Friday, 30 November 2012 11:22:14 UTC, andrew vecsey wrote:
>> >>> >>>>
>> >>> >>>> The paradoxical dilemma of who created the creator can be
>> >>> >>>> circumnavigated by the possibility that the original creator was
>> >>> >>>> not
>> >>> >>>> matter,
>> >>> >>>> but energy. Just like thinking of anything is much faster and
>> >>> >>>> much
>> >>> >>>> easier
>> >>> >>>> than building it, it becomes conceivable that energy patterns
>> >>> >>>> could
>> >>> >>>> have
>> >>> >>>> evolved in a random chance way and finely tuned by selective
>> >>> >>>> processes to
>> >>> >>>> reach intelligence similar to how most scientists believe that
>> >>> >>>> patterns of
>> >>> >>>> atoms and molecules evolved to form intelligent life.
>> >>> >>>>
>> >>> >>>> Energy patterns could have evolved to a point that they
>> >>> >>>> manipulated
>> >>> >>>> atoms to desired patterns and forms to code the information
>> >>> >>>> required
>> >>> >>>> for
>> >>> >>>> life and to allow them to evolve on their own to complex
>> >>> >>>> intelligent
>> >>> >>>> beings
>> >>> >>>> able to wonder at and eventually to solve the riddle of where
>> >>> >>>> they
>> >>> >>>> came
>> >>> >>>> from, where they are going and why they are alive. Meaning and
>> >>> >>>> purpose could
>> >>> >>>> then be given to our fleeting moment of existence.
>> >>> >>>>
>> >>> >>>>
>> >>> >>>> On Thursday, November 29, 2012 7:55:05 PM UTC+1, archytas wrote:
>> >>> >>>>>
>> >>> >>>>> ....... All we have in respect of this is to posit
>> >>> >>>>> creation, begging the question of what created that in an
>> >>> >>>>> infinite
>> >>> >>>>> regress. .....We might get to an intelligent state in which
>> >>> >>>>> creation
>> >>> >>>>> myths are replaced by something more plausible and Truth comes
>> >>> >>>>> closer.
>> >>> >>>>>
>> >>> >>>>> On 29 Nov, 01:41, RP Singh <123...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> >>>>> > Neil , even after re-transposition how long could the brain
>> >>> >>>>> > live
>> >>> >>>>> > --1000 years , 10000years or maybe as long as the universe
>> >>> >>>>> > ,but
>> >>> >>>>> > ultimately it will die or be destroyed at the end - time of
>> >>> >>>>> > the
>> >>> >>>>> > universe. What survives is the Truth behind life and nothing
>> >>> >>>>> > else.
>> >>> >>>>> >
>> >>> >>>>> >
>> >>> >>>>> >
>> >>> >>>>> >
>> >>> >>>>> >
>> >>> >>>>> >
>> >>> >>>>> >
>> >>> >>>>> > On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 3:33 AM, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com>
>> >>> >>>>> > wrote:
>> >>> >>>>> > > What survives is the gene - subject to mutations etc. We
>> >>> >>>>> > > are
>> >>> >>>>> > > already
>> >>> >>>>> > > 'Borg' in the sense of mass assimilation. One's mind could
>> >>> >>>>> > > be
>> >>> >>>>> > > transposed to another substrate (nearish future) - our
>> >>> >>>>> > > bodies
>> >>> >>>>> > > are
>> >>> >>>>> > > currently replaced every 5 years or so- and the new
>> >>> >>>>> > > substrate
>> >>> >>>>> > > could
>> >>> >>>>> > > have nanobots that would allow minds to outlive Lee's
>> >>> >>>>> > > 'hope'.
>> >>> >>>>> > > Such
>> >>> >>>>> > > substrated minds might link in super-intelligence and be
>> >>> >>>>> > > able to
>> >>> >>>>> > > re-
>> >>> >>>>> > > transfer into more human-like bodies they learned to make.
>> >>> >>>>> > > This
>> >>> >>>>> > > would
>> >>> >>>>> > > be a time beyond singularity. We don't know what such
>> >>> >>>>> > > intelligence
>> >>> >>>>> > > might invent or even discover - perhaps such intelligence
>> >>> >>>>> > > would
>> >>> >>>>> > > discover we are not as alone as we think. Being human or
>> >>> >>>>> > > human
>> >>> >>>>> > > being
>> >>> >>>>> > > might be as irrelevant as a mitochondria wanting to live
>> >>> >>>>> > > free
>> >>> >>>>> > > again.
>> >>> >>>>> > > We might be free of the tiny machines (genes) so much part
>> >>> >>>>> > > of
>> >>> >>>>> > > our
>> >>> >>>>> > > behaviour now.
>> >>> >>>>> >
>> >>> >>>>> > > On 28 Nov, 14:40, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> >>>>> > >> T9 grrrrrrr
>> >>> >>>>> > >> Allan
>> >>> >>>>> >
>> >>> >>>>> > >> Matrix ** th3 beginning light
>> >>> >>>>> > >> On Nov 28, 2012 11:38 AM, "gabbydott" <gabbyd...@gmail.com>
>> >>> >>>>> > >> wrote:
>> >>> >>>>> >
>> >>> >>>>> > >> > Ah! That's the extended version of 'possibly maybe' then
>> >>> >>>>> > >> > (my
>> >>> >>>>> > >> > grammar and
>> >>> >>>>> > >> > spelling checker suggests 10 instead of 'then' though)!
>> >>> >>>>> > >> > :)
>> >>> >>>>> >
>> >>> >>>>> > >> > 2012/11/28 James <ashkas...@gmail.com>
>> >>> >>>>> >
>> >>> >>>>> > >> >> I am an aspect of what was, is, and will be,
>> >>> >>>>> > >> >> coextensively.
>> >>> >>>>> > >> >> Maybe.
>> >>> >>>>> >
>> >>> >>>>> > >> >> On 11/27/2012 2:28 AM, RP Singh wrote:
>> >>> >>>>> >
>> >>> >>>>> > >> >>> Attachment to life is the cause of the desire for
>> >>> >>>>> > >> >>> immortality
>> >>> >>>>> > >> >>> and the
>> >>> >>>>> > >> >>> readiness to believe in an after-life or re-birth. It
>> >>> >>>>> > >> >>> is an
>> >>> >>>>> > >> >>> off-shoot of
>> >>> >>>>> > >> >>> the instinct for survival.
>> >>> >>>>> >
>> >>> >>>>> > >> >>> --
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>> >>> >>>>> > >> >> --
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>> >>> >>>>> > >> > --
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>> >>> >>>>> > > --
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>> >>> > --
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>> >>> >
>> >>>
>> >>> --
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>> >> --
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>> > --
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>> --
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>> |_D Allan
>>
>> Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.
>>
>>
>> I am a Natural Airgunner -
>>
>> Full of Hot Air & Ready To Expel It Quickly.
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Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.


I am a Natural Airgunner -

Full of Hot Air & Ready To Expel It Quickly.

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