Mind's Eye Re: Women's Issues

My Mum and elder sister were pretty strong characters and it never
really crossed my mind to treat anyone with other than the respect I
felt for them. I see where you re coming from rigs. The repression
is ongoing in some minds and reality around the world. We are just
changing our gender bias in 'heir to the throne rankings' so that
female children get equal place. Quite why we haven't worked out the
real issue has nothing to do with gender and everything to do with
throwing out the Royals I don't know. If the gender-free inheritance
rules had pertained 100 years before WW1 the British King in 1914
would have been - er - Kaiser Wilhelm!
There clearly are women's issues (men's, gays etc.) - and I doubt they
can or should be exclusively derived 'within gender' or sub-classes -
though this doesn't preclude groups talking the stuff through on such
a basis. I tend to think there has been progress, but I'm not sure
how this has come about, if it has.

On 4 Dec, 04:01, rigs <rigs...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks.// I think your reaction can be traced back to the time when
> men were considered the main/only source of security so women were
> more likely to protect that; it really is more complicated, however.
> Earlier homesteading and farming offered a different balance- a very
> important role for the female that gave her a natural or necessary
> equality. But younger couples are working on a balance, as I see it.//
> Was going to bring Hesiod into the mix as he set out a horrid
> description of females in the "Theogeny" (IX, 507-616), written in 8
> B.C.. I vaguely remember the professor saying he probably was an ugly
> farmer who was spurned by women so he took his revenge. But given the
> date, it is close to the Eden story. Another work came to mind written
> in the 1950's that I have poked around- "America As A Civilization" by
> Max Lerner- particularly Chapter VIII/Section 6- "The Ordeal of the
> American Woman" which captures some of what I was looking for in way
> of explanation for my parent's generation. I think he captured it- for
> a man. :-)
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> On Dec 3, 8:34 am, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > Your new account is off moderation rigsy.  I've always been struck
> > that women talking and acting for themselves are not reflected in the
> > literature and that some of the characters most dangerous to equal
> > opportunity are female.
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> > On 2 Dec, 06:27, rigs <rigs...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > On Saturday, December 1, 2012 10:30:37 AM UTC-6, archytas wrote:
> > > > The Body Class and Work Disability Discrimination Equality of Opportunity Identity Politics Multiculturalism Objectification Parenthood and Procreation Power Race Rape Reproduction and the Family Science The Self Sex and Gender Sex Markets Trans Issues These are just some of the topics I thought I could put forward in teaching gender issues in management. They underlie the bland politically correct policy matters. One thing has always occurred to me as missing in every debate I can remember. Women are as bad as men as managers. I equate equality with hospitality (always two-sided at least) and suspect we don't realise behaviour is much less to do with gender or the individual than we think and perhaps has little to do with rationality. I don't think we see the wood for the trees on gender.
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> > > How unlike anything EVER mentioned to me as a girl or young woman. I suppose we depended on family tradition, religion and etiquette as we were groomed for marriage via mystery, motherhood and homemaking. Groomed, indeed!- Hide quoted text -
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