I understand that brought a very expensive IBM printer, my letters always appeared to be hand typed, had several wheels so I could change fonts to expensive to bring over here .. it was expensive to operate..
Allan
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On Nov 27, 2012 12:58 AM, "archytas" <nwterry@gmail.com> wrote:
-- I probably don't disagree Gabs - but we're into meanings. There's a
point with technology when people just use it because it's there.
Britain made its last typewriter the other week, Much isn't changing
because of white male (always supported by white females) interests -
though I really prefer to think of wider traditional interests like
imperialism. Gender is something of a blind as is skin colour. Most
of my bosses have been useless - cockless or not. Management is
metrosexual and presents whatever face it deems necessary. I don't
like 'women' - but what might that mean? I can say the same about
'men'. Or humans. Or fashion addiction which is common in my
dislikes. When I first taught wordprocessing no one could believe
Typex as on its way out - given bosses often got letters redone
because they didn't like dot matrix paper ...
On 26 Nov, 16:12, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Transition in male white thinking is usually free and therefore very
> eco-friendly for the ruling management class, Neil. Technology is not
> the driver, it is to be controlled to serve my ideology.
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> On 26 Nov., 05:31, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > I suspect we need daring to admit we need the transition Lee. The
> > plan should be to provide decent livings for all through developing
> > new ways of living that are eco-friendly. I doubt there are any real
> > arguments against this. But in strategic management the mission and
> > future scenario bits are easier than 'transition'. We need the dream
> > to establish, working back, what the milestones would be. Somewhere
> > in this we have to stop war, establish policing that isn't a police
> > state and so on. I suspect the driver will have to be technology, as
> > argument does so little to displace ideology.
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> > On 15 Nov, 13:23, Lee Douglas <leerevdoug...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > There Archy is my achilles heel. Seeing the end yes I can envisage that,
> > > but as I say better brains than mine will have to handle transition.
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> > > As to idealogy it is clear to me that this changes over time. For example
> > > as I was growing up the corner shop was the 'Paki' shop, now in this
> > > country that sort of language, and hence any ideas that go along with it,
> > > even from kids is simply not tolerated anymore.
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> > > On Wednesday, 31 October 2012 22:35:20 UTC, archytas wrote:
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> > > > The good dream side of this is what you say Lee. But the thought
> > > > experiment is a challenge to current ideology. I've noticed over the
> > > > years that the most passionate defenders of the protestant work ethic
> > > > don't do jobs involving hard work for low pay.
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> > > > On Oct 26, 2:19 pm, Lee Douglas <leerevdoug...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > Ahhhh robot heaven is my ideal.
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> > > > > It gets rid of money as nobody would need to barter goods or services
> > > > > to survive, it would mean that humans can spend more time growing and
> > > > > learning, and can you imagine the various works of art, in all media?
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> > > > > Now of course the thing to consider is the transitional period, and I
> > > > guess
> > > > > this is Archy's main thrust. Our history shows us that
> > > > > such transitional periods are fraught with violence and upheaval, I
> > > > suspect
> > > > > a move to robotic heaven would be little different.
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> > > > > So we have robots a plenty and much work going on in robotics. I
> > > > suspect
> > > > > the next thing we'll have to sort is robots that make and repair robots.
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> > > > > Should we concentrate then on food and water production and
> > > > distribution?
> > > > > Why yes I think we should.
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> > > > > Get that done and then nobody has to pay for food or water, ahhh now we
> > > > are
> > > > > getting somewhere. A world full of thinkers and artists!
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> > > > > Energy next?
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> > > > > On Wednesday, 19 September 2012 22:56:36 UTC+1, archytas wrote:
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> > > > > > Thought experiments are devices of the imagination used to investigate
> > > > > > the nature of things. Thought experimenting often takes place when the
> > > > > > method of variation is employed in entertaining imaginative
> > > > > > suppositions. They are used for diverse reasons in a variety of areas,
> > > > > > including economics, history, mathematics, philosophy, and physics.
> > > > > > Most often thought experiments are communicated in narrative form,
> > > > > > sometimes through media like a diagram. Thought experiments should be
> > > > > > distinguished from thinking about experiments, from merely imagining
> > > > > > any experiments to be conducted outside the imagination, and from
> > > > > > psychological experiments with thoughts. They should also be
> > > > > > distinguished from counterfactual reasoning in general, as they seem
> > > > > > to require an experimental element.
> > > > > >http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/thought-experiment/
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> > > > > > One I like is the notion of robot heaven. It's easy enough to imagine
> > > > > > a time when machines grow our food, build our shelter and do our
> > > > > > work. The interesting stuff comes in thinking what this would mean
> > > > > > for wealth distribution and the nature of society. What work would be
> > > > > > left to do? One can also wonder what place any of our work ethics
> > > > > > would have in such a society. There may be some deconstructive effect
> > > > > > on just what current work ideologies are in place for.
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> > > > > > One of the great improvements technology brought to my life is more or
> > > > > > less never having to go into a bank. The only real innovations in
> > > > > > banking are the ATM and electronic banking. This kind of technology
> > > > > > and similar in agriculture and industry fundamentally reduce the
> > > > > > amount of human effort to grow and make what we need. We are in
> > > > > > partial state of robot heaven.
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> > > > > > Our ideologies are not up to speed. Real unemployment is massive and
> > > > > > education does little to provide job skills. We are sold life-styles
> > > > > > and products by insane advertising. Job creation seems to be in
> > > > > > perverse areas like financial services or bringing back attended gas-
> > > > > > pumps. With more efficient production we should be able to afford a
> > > > > > bigger social sector and I can't for the life of me understand why we
> > > > > > allow competition through crap wages and conditions.
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> > > > > > A great deal of what we pay for could be available more or less free.
> > > > > > Educational content and utility banking are examples - these are areas
> > > > > > that could be ratinalised like agriculture and manufacturing.
> > > > > > Millions of jobs would go. We should be asking why jobs are so
> > > > > > central to out thinking on wealth distribution and how we might
> > > > > > encourage work without the rat race.
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