Good ideas here but the challenges are huge. I agree by 14 we pretty much can tell if the student has potential or not. I would be excited to see Corporations take the cream of these youngsters under their umbrella and start the training as well. This is actually a very, very good idea. Science has advanced so far specialization is needed for years before innovation is possible. I read an article recently that noted most modern Nobel Prize winners are well into or past middle age when they do the work that gets them their prize. It takes that long to learn enough to get to where they can come up with a new idea or formula or model or map some interesting gene or some such. Imagine if their journey started when they were 14 instead of 24 and just dipping into graduate work. Very interesting.
The elephant in the room is what to do with all the undiciplined(problem) children that seem to have no future. One answer would be some kind of bootcamp. I'm actually for this as well. At 14 they are still young enough to hopefully become more disiplined and perhaps can improve and join their peers on a more sucessful path to the future. Some may show aptitude for mechanical and/or computer repair/maintainance. Some may be better suited to labor jobs. I don't know what to do with the losers but it would be awesome if schools were to stop having to be armed concentration camps and start focusing on teaching. Getting rid of the malcontents will improve moral of teachers and good students a great deal making learning more pleasurable. Perhaps we could keep the brick and mortar schools for the rejects. They already have metal detectors so why not?
I really like the idea of project learning. I think the Montessori method is based on this concept. Seems to work great with Kindergarden kids don't know why it wouldn't work just as well with teenagers.
The biggest boon to education, imo, would be to decentralize it. Let the States compete with each other on who puts out the most qualifited graduates. Much like universities do. Then those underperforming schools could look to the methods of the better schools and change to improve. Having everything centralized prevents innovation. We need to shake things up.
Been working like a dog all week. Grateful to be employed.
dj
On Sunday, September 9, 2012 4:46:26 PM UTC-5, archytas wrote:
I rather like some Marx and Lenin Don. Our kids are being cloned in--
other ways. I broadly agree though - but jobs as we knew them are
gone. The current con is about 'working smart' and further and higher
education providing training for that. In round 1924 the Germans
sacked 25% of State workers and underwent massive bankruptcies. The
US lost 10 million jobs in the depression - most ending up in a vast
military mobilisation. I suspect you and I see freedom as linked to
productive work, but this needs reworking.
I'd cut the school-leaving age to 14 and introduce a new form of
national-international service. I'd scrap universities as we have
them now and introduce 7 years free post-14 education for anyone
wanting it. I'd expect most of this to be non-classroom and project-
related. It would be good to give up to notions of people just being
able to earn money, but I think this has always been organised. Every
scheme we come up with brings up control problems, either by
government or the rich.
On 9 Sep, 18:31, Vam <atewari2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I can see the dissipation of the crux, as I read in the thread...
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> Evidence of what is subversive includes facts like the US spending 54% of tax revenue on war program and Rupert Murdoch's 175 media units voicing in unison that Iraq war was right.
>
> Clearly, I am speaking of the system, order and economics. We are back to franchise barriers open only to millionaire 'gentry.'
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