Re: Mind's Eye turning the world Greek

yeah we need a "universal party of amnesia" we could make it world wide and run on everything the other parties forgot they tried..

Allan

On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 10:56 PM, archytas <nwterry@gmail.com> wrote:

The scary thing about most of the solutions in our politics is they
have been tried before and failed.  Most of us have forgotten or never
knew.

On 10 Sep, 13:05, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Some of the issues facing us can be found here -http://www.zerohedge.com/news/americas-middle-class-divide
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> Greece and probably Italy would have become communist after WW2 - but
> for Anglo-Saxon interference.  International money has escaped even
> war reparation and the whole business of working for a living is
> undercut by vast riches.  The real issue is about retaining motivation
> to get the work we need done done.  I find the financial system
> utterly demotivating.  The answer isn't communism.
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> It doesn't seem to matter much whether money is focused on a few rich
> or centralised government.  The problem is the corruption of the
> oligarchs or politicians.  Yet try getting people to organise to do
> necessary work and you soon realise this is a process of coercion.
> The idea has to be to spread wealth widely - yet even this leaves us
> with problems of consumption and planet burning as we all become
> middle-class idiots or irresponsible carbon-footprint breeders.
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> On 9 Sep, 22:46, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > I rather like some Marx and Lenin Don.  Our kids are being cloned in
> > other ways.  I broadly agree though - but jobs as we knew them are
> > gone.  The current con is about 'working smart' and further and higher
> > education providing training for that.  In round 1924 the Germans
> > sacked 25% of State workers and underwent massive bankruptcies.  The
> > US lost 10 million jobs in the depression - most ending up in a vast
> > military mobilisation.  I suspect you and I see freedom as linked to
> > productive work, but this needs reworking.
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> > I'd cut the school-leaving age to 14 and introduce a new form of
> > national-international service.  I'd scrap universities as we have
> > them now and introduce 7 years free post-14 education for anyone
> > wanting it.  I'd expect most of this to be non-classroom and project-
> > related.  It would be good to give up to notions of people just being
> > able to earn money, but I think this has always been organised.  Every
> > scheme we come up with brings up control problems, either by
> > government or the rich.
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> > On 9 Sep, 18:31, Vam <atewari2...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > I can see the dissipation of the crux, as I read in the thread...
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> > > Evidence of what is subversive includes facts like the US spending 54% of tax revenue on war program and Rupert Murdoch's 175 media units voicing in unison that Iraq war was right.
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> > > Clearly, I am speaking of the system, order and economics. We are back to franchise barriers open only to millionaire 'gentry.'

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