On Thursday, September 13, 2012 12:47:23 AM UTC+5:30, rigsy03 wrote:
Man can make a choice also- and be honest about it. It does take--
humans a long time to mature.
On Sep 12, 12:37 pm, Vam <atewari2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The only point about sexual orientation is the negative attitude people
> have to anything not their own. Take that away, in curative sense, and the
> topic is not worth a minute of my attention.
>
> It's the same with sex and food. Be done with, whichever way you will. In
> media, however, there are many who insist on keeping it as their only
> priority ... as hogs would ! That's when I conclude that the man has not
> evolved.
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, September 12, 2012 12:30:13 AM UTC+5:30, archytas wrote:
>
> > I'd add that ADMASS culture doesn't help any of this.
> > And that I have no wish to live forever Al. It would be good not to
> > look back on most of it as a waste of time though! Had an enjoyable
> > chat about that with two former teachers last week. Their biggest
> > grins came when they discovered I'd missed out on the early retirement
> > scheme because I was five years younger than them.
>
> > On 11 Sep, 08:58, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > How old did you say you want to get to:
> > > Allan
>
> > > On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 10:48 PM, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > The guess is 4 million switches and they may work in multiple
> > > > combination.
>
> > > > On 10 Sep, 20:15, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > I was reading the other day that the genetic code is far more active
> > than
> > > > > it was ever believed and that the genetic code is active through out
> > your
> > > > > entire life. they are looking into how to flip the genetic switches
> > for
> > > > > everything from diabetes through cancer and other human ailments.
>
> > > > > The genetic code is no longer restricted to that of our birth
> > > > > Allan
>
> > > > > On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 6:30 PM, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > I think the hope is to optimise away from being so boring on the
> > issue
> > > > > > of sexual orientation as gay, bi, lesbian and straight. Only
> > > > > > godswank prejudice could ever have led us to be bothered.
> > > > > > Orientation towards violent, predatory and exploitative sex does
> > seem
> > > > > > worthy of consideration and there is sadly plenty of it. I
> > suspect
> > > > > > this pathology is the model for our political economy.
>
> > > > > > I can sympathise with being Molly - Heidegger tortured it death.
> > I
> > > > > > came across a paedophile case recently in which the perpetrator
> > had a
> > > > > > brain tumour. Once removed the behaviour disappeared. The
> > scalpel
> > > > > > saved him rather than introspection. I agree, of course, that we
> > need
> > > > > > more reflection on what we can be and how to live. If life as we
> > know
> > > > > > it (Jim) was a holiday destination, I wouldn't be coming back.
>
> > > > > > Women (as in cosmetic adverts) make me sick, as would anyone
> > attracted
> > > > > > to Marks and Spencer by its latest clothes-horse marketing. It
> > seems
> > > > > > I have little orientation towards bimboism. Anthropology gives us
> > > > > > reason to suppose sexuality is culturally manufactured in large
> > > > > > degree. I suspect we don't think very clearly about it
>
> > > > > > Much as I don't like rules, I think we can value them in minimal
> > > > > > form. I'd guess one we're missing on sexuality is its use in
> > > > > > distraction, much like religious rituals. I have to say, Gabs,
> > that
> > > > > > the sexuality of any offspring would be of less concern to me than
> > > > > > general health - thus no doubt making be ableist against the
> > social
> > > > > > model of disability. One might ponder whether one would prefer a
> > > > > > child to carry potential to be a fast-bowling all rounder or born
> > > > > > straight (no contest for me). The Italian aristocracy model from
> > the
> > > > > > 17th century was essentially gay - women were just breeding
> > machines.
> > > > > > I am not an aristocrat and, having watched England thrash the West
> > > > > > Indies in women's cricket, am a little sad I'm too old to make a
> > fool
> > > > > > of myself with the whole eleven.
>
> > > > > > On 10 Sep, 16:33, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > This translates that there is hope for mankind to be able to
> > optimize
> > > > > > > their offspring's sexual orientation to the desired one. An old
> > > > > > > belief.
>
> > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 2:54 PM, Molly <mollyb...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > > I'd say that genes only rule rationality when rationality or
> > "mind"
> > > > > > rules
> > > > > > > > being. A quiet mind opens endless possibility. Epigenetics
> > is
> > > > > > changing the
> > > > > > > > paradigm as we find our genetic code in flux and responsive to
> > our
> > > > > > internal
> > > > > > > > environment. Twins separated at birth match their adoptive
> > parents
> > > > > > genetic
> > > > > > > > code more than their biological. All quite fascinating.
>
> > > > > > > > On Monday, September 10, 2012 7:35:52 AM UTC-4, archytas
> > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > >> I watched some gorillas on television a couple of days back.
> > An
> > > > all
> > > > > > > >> male group were practising homosexuality, but then the women
> > > > moved in
> > > > > > > >> and they reverted to straight. The alpha appeared to
> > dominate the
> > > > > > > >> sex, but in fact the others got on with life behind his back.
> > All
> > > > > > > >> very human. A couple of weeks back I had a bit of a blow out
> > > > down the
> > > > > > > >> pub. I was accused by a psycho of fancying his wife - all
> > very
> > > > ape.
>
> > > > > > > >> I find sexual orientation pretty boring. I still get the
> > smarts
> > > > from
> > > > > > > >> time to time, but find sex as commercially presented dull.
> > I'd
> > > > say
> > > > > > > >> each to his or her own if my old job hadn't exposed me to
> > utter
> > > > > > > >> perversion. I have a mate into bondage and pain and that's
> > his
> > > > > > > >> business. I can't say the same about sex tourism and child
> > abuse
> > > > such
> > > > > > > >> as getting sex from young kids by giving them mobile phones.
> > Most
> > > > > > > >> cultures have abusive sex rings and weird rituals. I have a
> > > > > > > >> particular disdain for men in skirts waiving incense,
> > pretending
> > > > > > > >> holiness and abusing kids.
>
> > > > > > > >> I'm a cuddly sort under whatever enigma I present or is (more
> > > > > > > >> accurately I think) perceived by others. Derrida had it
> > somewhere
> > > > > > > >> that the pen scratching paper is violence. My favourite
> > sports
> > > > are
> > > > > > > >> violent (cricket and rugby). Sex itself is somewhat more
> > violent
> > > > than
> > > > > > > >> scratching paper with a nib, though our ludic gasps are not
> > > > usually
> > > > > > > >> about pain.
>
> > > > > > > >> I'm not at all sure sexual orientation is about straight,
> > gay,
> > > > lesbian
> > > > > > > >> and so on. Sue's dog has a thing for my duffle-coat,
> > teenage
> > > > legs as
> > > > > > > >> he approaches 'maturity' and is devoted to our female cat.
> > What
> > > > > > > >> consenting people do between themselves is generally of no
> > > > account,
> > > > > > > >> though the taboos we have on age and incest are about right.
>
> > > > > > > >> Genetically, we are close to not needing sexual relations for
> > > > > > > >> reproduction - either sex can, in principle, reproduce
> > without the
> > > > > > > >> other, and again in principle, we could build the 'next
> > model'
> > > > from
> > > > > > > >> chemical constituents.
>
> > > > > > > >> I suspect our economic affairs are little more than some
> > > > sublimated
> > > > > > > >> ape genetics. I'm interested in how gang-rape and abuse
> > cultures
> > > > come
> > > > > > > >> about in an attempt to understand how a sexual orientation
> > > > infringes
> > > > > > > >> emancipation and consenting mutuality - and how we might live
> > > > free of
> > > > > > > >> the domination of genes over rationality (itself somewhat
> > > > > > gene-driven).
>
> > > > > > > > --
>
> > > > > > --
>
> > > > > --
> > > > > (
> > > > > )
> > > > > |_D Allan
>
> > > > > Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.
>
> > > > > I am a Natural Airgunner -
>
> > > > > Full of Hot Air & Ready To Expel It Quickly.
>
> > > > --
>
> > > --
> > > (
> > > )
> > > |_D Allan
>
> > > Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.
>
> > > I am a Natural Airgunner -
>
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