Wednesday, September 12, 2012

Re: Mind's Eye Re: sexual orientation

Andy is not younger?  I am so confused..  

and I do understand the rest and it is very true
Allan

On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 4:18 PM, rigsy03 <rigsy03@yahoo.com> wrote:
Novak's legs began to cramp in the 5th set whereas Andy has good legs
for the long haul. Thank god for Scottish legs from my father!

I can admire female beauty without desiring it. Am definitely hetero.
Have dated/gone with "pretty boys" but they seemed dull somehow. I
like a bit of ruggedness or misery- mother called them "lounge
lizards". Have noted many couples where one provides the looks and the
other the plain- or a mix of education- liberal arts/science. Have had
a couple women apprpoach me which I thought creepy- I think I wear an
invisible hoop skirt to keep some distance- my daughter chided me for
looking "unapproachable" which is my public behavior- that's how I was
raised- but it didn't stop men from passing me their cards via
waitresses, etc. In fact, men started crawling out of the woodwork
after my divorce so I married again asap.

On Sep 11, 1:54 pm, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> A lot I recognise in what you say Bill.  The odd male face does
> something to me - the blond lad from some car-chase ritual in which
> Barbara Bach was the 'love interest' was one such good ole boy.  He
> was far more immediately attractive than her.  I haven't noticed Andy
> Murray's legs though rigsy.  I took a set off Rod Laver once - though
> sadly this was in a table tennis warm-up to his main event.
>
> It is the exploitation that interests me.  In many respects I think we
> are still living to the Domesday Book and similar.  My fantasies tend
> towards imagining what a world without any financial dependence might
> be like. I'm inclined to see economics in a metaphor of sexual fetish
> and dependence.
>
> On 11 Sep, 08:58, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > How old did you say you want to get to:
> > Allan
>
> > On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 10:48 PM, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > The guess is 4 million switches and they may work in multiple
> > > combination.
>
> > > On 10 Sep, 20:15, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > I was reading the other day that the genetic code is far more active than
> > > > it was ever believed and that the genetic code is active through out your
> > > > entire life. they are looking into how to flip the genetic switches for
> > > > everything from diabetes through cancer and other human ailments.
>
> > > > The genetic code is no longer restricted to that of our birth
> > > > Allan
>
> > > > On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 6:30 PM, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > I think the hope is to optimise away from being so boring on the issue
> > > > > of sexual orientation as gay, bi, lesbian and straight.  Only
> > > > > godswank  prejudice could ever have led us to be bothered.
> > > > > Orientation towards violent, predatory and exploitative sex does seem
> > > > > worthy of consideration and there is sadly plenty of it.  I suspect
> > > > > this pathology is the model for our political economy.
>
> > > > > I can sympathise with being Molly - Heidegger tortured it death.  I
> > > > > came across a paedophile case recently in which the perpetrator had a
> > > > > brain tumour.  Once removed the behaviour disappeared.  The scalpel
> > > > > saved him rather than introspection.  I agree, of course, that we need
> > > > > more reflection on what we can be and how to live.  If life as we know
> > > > > it (Jim) was a holiday destination, I wouldn't be coming back.
>
> > > > > Women (as in cosmetic adverts) make me sick, as would anyone attracted
> > > > > to Marks and Spencer by its latest clothes-horse marketing.  It seems
> > > > > I have little orientation towards bimboism.  Anthropology gives us
> > > > > reason to suppose sexuality is culturally manufactured in large
> > > > > degree.  I suspect we don't think very clearly about it
>
> > > > > Much as I don't like rules, I think we can value them in minimal
> > > > > form.  I'd guess one we're missing on sexuality is its use in
> > > > > distraction, much like religious rituals.  I have to say, Gabs, that
> > > > > the sexuality of any offspring would be of less concern to me than
> > > > > general health - thus no doubt making be ableist against the social
> > > > > model of disability.  One might ponder whether one would prefer a
> > > > > child to carry potential to be a fast-bowling all rounder or born
> > > > > straight (no contest for me).  The Italian aristocracy model from the
> > > > > 17th century was essentially gay - women were just breeding machines.
> > > > > I am not an aristocrat and, having watched England thrash the West
> > > > > Indies in women's cricket, am a little sad I'm too old to make a fool
> > > > > of myself with the whole eleven.
>
> > > > > On 10 Sep, 16:33, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > This translates that there is hope for mankind to be able to optimize
> > > > > > their offspring's sexual orientation to the desired one. An old
> > > > > > belief.
>
> > > > > > On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 2:54 PM, Molly <mollyb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > I'd say that genes only rule rationality when rationality or "mind"
> > > > > rules
> > > > > > > being.  A quiet mind opens endless possibility.  Epigenetics is
> > > > > changing the
> > > > > > > paradigm as we find our genetic code in flux and responsive to our
> > > > > internal
> > > > > > > environment.  Twins separated at birth match their adoptive parents
> > > > > genetic
> > > > > > > code more than their biological.  All quite fascinating.
>
> > > > > > > On Monday, September 10, 2012 7:35:52 AM UTC-4, archytas wrote:
>
> > > > > > >> I watched some gorillas on television a couple of days back.  An
> > > all
> > > > > > >> male group were practising homosexuality, but then the women
> > > moved in
> > > > > > >> and they reverted to straight.  The alpha appeared to dominate the
> > > > > > >> sex, but in fact the others got on with life behind his back.  All
> > > > > > >> very human.  A couple of weeks back I had a bit of a blow out
> > > down the
> > > > > > >> pub.  I was accused by a psycho of fancying his wife - all very
> > > ape.
>
> > > > > > >> I find sexual orientation pretty boring.  I still get the smarts
> > > from
> > > > > > >> time to time, but find sex as commercially presented dull.  I'd
> > > say
> > > > > > >> each to his or her own if my old job hadn't exposed me to utter
> > > > > > >> perversion.  I have a mate into bondage and pain and that's his
> > > > > > >> business.  I can't say the same about sex tourism and child abuse
> > > such
> > > > > > >> as getting sex from young kids by giving them mobile phones.  Most
> > > > > > >> cultures have abusive sex rings and weird rituals.  I have a
> > > > > > >> particular disdain for men in skirts waiving incense, pretending
> > > > > > >> holiness and abusing kids.
>
> > > > > > >> I'm a cuddly sort under whatever enigma I present or is (more
> > > > > > >> accurately I think) perceived by others.  Derrida had it somewhere
> > > > > > >> that the pen scratching paper is violence.  My favourite sports
> > > are
> > > > > > >> violent (cricket and rugby).  Sex itself is somewhat more violent
> > > than
> > > > > > >> scratching paper with a nib, though our ludic gasps are not
> > > usually
> > > > > > >> about pain.
>
> > > > > > >> I'm not at all sure sexual orientation is about straight, gay,
> > > lesbian
> > > > > > >> and so on.  Sue's dog has a thing  for my duffle-coat, teenage
> > > legs as
> > > > > > >> he approaches 'maturity' and is devoted to our female cat.  What
> > > > > > >> consenting people do between themselves is generally of no
> > > account,
> > > > > > >> though the taboos we have on age and incest are about right.
>
> > > > > > >> Genetically, we are close to not needing sexual relations for
> > > > > > >> reproduction - either sex can, in principle, reproduce without the
> > > > > > >> other, and again in principle, we could build the 'next model'
> > > from
> > > > > > >> chemical constituents.
>
> > > > > > >> I suspect our economic affairs are little more than some
> > > sublimated
> > > > > > >> ape genetics.  I'm interested in how gang-rape and abuse cultures
> > > come
> > > > > > >> about in an attempt to understand how a sexual orientation
> > > infringes
> > > > > > >> emancipation and consenting mutuality - and how we might live
> > > free of
> > > > > > >> the domination of genes over rationality (itself somewhat
> > > > > gene-driven).
>
> > > > > > > --
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> > > > > --
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> > > > --
> > > >  (
> > > >   )
> > > > |_D Allan
>
> > > > Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.
>
> > > > I am a Natural Airgunner -
>
> > > >  Full of Hot Air & Ready To Expel It Quickly.
>
> > > --
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> > --
> >  (
> >   )
> > |_D Allan
>
> > Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.
>
> > I am a Natural Airgunner -
>
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