that is true, some things are said enjoyment and humour,
Allan
On Sep 13, 2012 10:24 AM, "archytas" <nwterry@gmail.com> wrote:
-- I rather agree with Vam. We need to know people are sprung
differently, but after that, who cares.
On 13 Sep, 08:55, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Vam according to the kamasutra there is no such thing as exsex. I mean
> excess,
> Allan
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> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 10:35 PM, Vam <atewari2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I recall loving Henry Miller's accounts [ or was it Norman Mailer ? ] but
> > not because he was having food or sex 24/7 ! It was the remarkably upfront
> > tale of vitality that was highly empowering ... a thorough eye-opener to
> > someone who was yet "erring" on the side of excess.
>
> > On Thursday, September 13, 2012 12:47:23 AM UTC+5:30, rigsy03 wrote:
>
> >> Man can make a choice also- and be honest about it. It does take
> >> humans a long time to mature.
>
> >> On Sep 12, 12:37 pm, Vam <atewari2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > The only point about sexual orientation is the negative attitude people
> >> > have to anything not their own. Take that away, in curative sense, and
> >> the
> >> > topic is not worth a minute of my attention.
>
> >> > It's the same with sex and food. Be done with, whichever way you will.
> >> In
> >> > media, however, there are many who insist on keeping it as their only
> >> > priority ... as hogs would ! That's when I conclude that the man has
> >> not
> >> > evolved.
>
> >> > On Wednesday, September 12, 2012 12:30:13 AM UTC+5:30, archytas wrote:
>
> >> > > I'd add that ADMASS culture doesn't help any of this.
> >> > > And that I have no wish to live forever Al. It would be good not to
> >> > > look back on most of it as a waste of time though! Had an enjoyable
> >> > > chat about that with two former teachers last week. Their biggest
> >> > > grins came when they discovered I'd missed out on the early
> >> retirement
> >> > > scheme because I was five years younger than them.
>
> >> > > On 11 Sep, 08:58, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > > > How old did you say you want to get to:
> >> > > > Allan
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> >> > > > On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 10:48 PM, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > > > > The guess is 4 million switches and they may work in multiple
> >> > > > > combination.
>
> >> > > > > On 10 Sep, 20:15, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > > > > > I was reading the other day that the genetic code is far more
> >> active
> >> > > than
> >> > > > > > it was ever believed and that the genetic code is active
> >> through out
> >> > > your
> >> > > > > > entire life. they are looking into how to flip the genetic
> >> switches
> >> > > for
> >> > > > > > everything from diabetes through cancer and other human
> >> ailments.
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> >> > > > > > The genetic code is no longer restricted to that of our birth
> >> > > > > > Allan
>
> >> > > > > > On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 6:30 PM, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com>
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > > > > > > I think the hope is to optimise away from being so boring on
> >> the
> >> > > issue
> >> > > > > > > of sexual orientation as gay, bi, lesbian and straight. Only
> >> > > > > > > godswank prejudice could ever have led us to be bothered.
> >> > > > > > > Orientation towards violent, predatory and exploitative sex
> >> does
> >> > > seem
> >> > > > > > > worthy of consideration and there is sadly plenty of it. I
> >> > > suspect
> >> > > > > > > this pathology is the model for our political economy.
>
> >> > > > > > > I can sympathise with being Molly - Heidegger tortured it
> >> death.
> >> > > I
> >> > > > > > > came across a paedophile case recently in which the
> >> perpetrator
> >> > > had a
> >> > > > > > > brain tumour. Once removed the behaviour disappeared. The
> >> > > scalpel
> >> > > > > > > saved him rather than introspection. I agree, of course,
> >> that we
> >> > > need
> >> > > > > > > more reflection on what we can be and how to live. If life
> >> as we
> >> > > know
> >> > > > > > > it (Jim) was a holiday destination, I wouldn't be coming
> >> back.
>
> >> > > > > > > Women (as in cosmetic adverts) make me sick, as would anyone
> >> > > attracted
> >> > > > > > > to Marks and Spencer by its latest clothes-horse marketing.
> >> It
> >> > > seems
> >> > > > > > > I have little orientation towards bimboism. Anthropology
> >> gives us
> >> > > > > > > reason to suppose sexuality is culturally manufactured in
> >> large
> >> > > > > > > degree. I suspect we don't think very clearly about it
>
> >> > > > > > > Much as I don't like rules, I think we can value them in
> >> minimal
> >> > > > > > > form. I'd guess one we're missing on sexuality is its use in
> >> > > > > > > distraction, much like religious rituals. I have to say,
> >> Gabs,
> >> > > that
> >> > > > > > > the sexuality of any offspring would be of less concern to me
> >> than
> >> > > > > > > general health - thus no doubt making be ableist against the
> >> > > social
> >> > > > > > > model of disability. One might ponder whether one would
> >> prefer a
> >> > > > > > > child to carry potential to be a fast-bowling all rounder or
> >> born
> >> > > > > > > straight (no contest for me). The Italian aristocracy model
> >> from
> >> > > the
> >> > > > > > > 17th century was essentially gay - women were just breeding
> >> > > machines.
> >> > > > > > > I am not an aristocrat and, having watched England thrash the
> >> West
> >> > > > > > > Indies in women's cricket, am a little sad I'm too old to
> >> make a
> >> > > fool
> >> > > > > > > of myself with the whole eleven.
>
> >> > > > > > > On 10 Sep, 16:33, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > > > > > > > This translates that there is hope for mankind to be able
> >> to
> >> > > optimize
> >> > > > > > > > their offspring's sexual orientation to the desired one. An
> >> old
> >> > > > > > > > belief.
>
> >> > > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 2:54 PM, Molly <mollyb...@gmail.com>
>
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > > > > > > > > I'd say that genes only rule rationality when rationality
> >> or
> >> > > "mind"
> >> > > > > > > rules
> >> > > > > > > > > being. A quiet mind opens endless possibility.
> >> Epigenetics
> >> > > is
> >> > > > > > > changing the
> >> > > > > > > > > paradigm as we find our genetic code in flux and
> >> responsive to
> >> > > our
> >> > > > > > > internal
> >> > > > > > > > > environment. Twins separated at birth match their
> >> adoptive
> >> > > parents
> >> > > > > > > genetic
> >> > > > > > > > > code more than their biological. All quite fascinating.
>
> >> > > > > > > > > On Monday, September 10, 2012 7:35:52 AM UTC-4, archytas
> >> > > wrote:
>
> >> > > > > > > > >> I watched some gorillas on television a couple of days
> >> back.
> >> > > An
> >> > > > > all
> >> > > > > > > > >> male group were practising homosexuality, but then the
> >> women
> >> > > > > moved in
> >> > > > > > > > >> and they reverted to straight. The alpha appeared to
> >> > > dominate the
> >> > > > > > > > >> sex, but in fact the others got on with life behind his
> >> back.
> >> > > All
> >> > > > > > > > >> very human. A couple of weeks back I had a bit of a
> >> blow out
> >> > > > > down the
> >> > > > > > > > >> pub. I was accused by a psycho of fancying his wife -
> >> all
> >> > > very
> >> > > > > ape.
>
> >> > > > > > > > >> I find sexual orientation pretty boring. I still get
> >> the
> >> > > smarts
> >> > > > > from
> >> > > > > > > > >> time to time, but find sex as commercially presented
> >> dull.
> >> > > I'd
> >> > > > > say
> >> > > > > > > > >> each to his or her own if my old job hadn't exposed me
> >> to
> >> > > utter
> >> > > > > > > > >> perversion. I have a mate into bondage and pain and
> >> that's
> >> > > his
> >> > > > > > > > >> business. I can't say the same about sex tourism and
> >> child
> >> > > abuse
> >> > > > > such
> >> > > > > > > > >> as getting sex from young kids by giving them mobile
> >> phones.
> >> > > Most
> >> > > > > > > > >> cultures have abusive sex rings and weird rituals. I
> >> have a
> >> > > > > > > > >> particular disdain for men in skirts waiving incense,
> >> > > pretending
> >> > > > > > > > >> holiness and abusing kids.
>
> >> > > > > > > > >> I'm a cuddly sort under whatever enigma I present or is
> >> (more
> >> > > > > > > > >> accurately I think) perceived by others. Derrida had it
> >> > > somewhere
> >> > > > > > > > >> that the pen scratching paper is violence. My favourite
> >> > > sports
> >> > > > > are
> >> > > > > > > > >> violent (cricket and rugby). Sex itself is somewhat
> >> more
> >> > > violent
> >> > > > > than
> >> > > > > > > > >> scratching paper with a nib, though our ludic gasps are
> >> not
> >> > > > > usually
> >> > > > > > > > >> about pain.
>
> >> > > > > > > > >> I'm not at all sure sexual orientation is about
> >> straight,
> >> > > gay,
> >> > > > > lesbian
> >> > > > > > > > >> and so on. Sue's dog has a thing for my duffle-coat,
> >> > > teenage
> >> > > > > legs as
> >> > > > > > > > >> he approaches 'maturity' and is devoted to our female
> >> cat.
> >> > > What
> >> > > > > > > > >> consenting people do between themselves is generally of
> >> no
> >> > > > > account,
> >> > > > > > > > >> though the taboos we have on age and incest are about
> >> right.
>
> >> > > > > > > > >> Genetically, we are close to not needing sexual
> >> relations for
> >> > > > > > > > >> reproduction - either sex can, in principle, reproduce
> >> > > without the
> >> > > > > > > > >> other, and again in principle, we could build the 'next
> >> > > model'
> >> > > > > from
> >> > > > > > > > >> chemical constituents.
>
> >> > > > > > > > >> I suspect our economic affairs are little more than some
> >> > > > > sublimated
> >> > > > > > > > >> ape genetics. I'm interested in how gang-rape and abuse
> >> > > cultures
> >> > > > > come
> >> > > > > > > > >> about in an attempt to understand how a sexual
> >> orientation
> >> > > > > infringes
> >> > > > > > > > >> emancipation and consenting mutuality - and how we might
> >> live
> >> > > > > free of
> >> > > > > > > > >> the domination of genes over rationality (itself
> >> somewhat
> >> > > > > > > gene-driven).
>
> >> > > > > > > > > --
>
> >> > > > > > > --
>
> >> > > > > > --
> >> > > > > > (
> >> > > > > > )
> >> > > > > > |_D Allan
>
> >> > > > > > Life is for moral, ethical and truthful
>
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