Re: Mind's Eye Re-wired brains

I seem to remember subliminals being a suspect of product marketing-
why bother, I wonder? As for propaganda, I think it is and has been a
political tool but also consider the "messages" we get from family,
teachers, relationships, etc. which may be very hard to overcome, if
negative. A line to remember is "Consider the source" to regain some
balance. Vidal was quoted on some Charlie Rose tapes as saying
nevermind what others think of you as much as what you think of them-
but he was still battling critics. I think we seek the truth without
becoming cynical and hopeless. Or the reverse.

We combined our 33rd block party with National Night Out. It was great
fun- conversations- catching up- food- all ages and there was even
another Republican couple from Florida visiting! :-)

On Aug 8, 1:09 am, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I looked up subliminal stimuli  on the internet,  it is interesting
> although in itself it is not effective and over short term,, but combining
> it with other methods of stimulation,,  also knowing the the massive and
> ongoing research that is going on within the market community there is
> little short term effect..
> how ever if you are told the same propaganda over a long enough period
>  then you will find it becomes the truth..  I see this within religions
> even though it is not subliminal.. but it does demonstrate the effects of a
> message over a long period of time in their minds it becomes the truth and
> that does not depend on it being the truth, but rather the repeating the
> idea again and again..  try and convince a Navajo that their people did not
> come out of the ground.
>
> combining the different methods of stimulation it would easily be used to
> directly influence massive groups of people.
> Allan
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> On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 6:45 AM, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > That is very true,, I remember research being done on subliminal messages,
> > Ii do believe they are illegal in the United States of Amnesia..  but now
> > that I am thinking in those terms that can explain the lack of memory as to
> > what is really happening and why people do not seem to recall major events
> > or where what and why something is happening..  I am at myself for the
> > 'duh! stupid that is why it is called propaganda.'
> > Allan
>
> > On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 2:10 AM, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> There is some physical evidence that stuff like video games do re-wire
> >> brains.
>
> >> On Jul 20, 7:09 am, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > I totally agree with you Rigsy,,  people have gone form the long term
> >> > outlook to the short term gains, there draw back ,, in today's world
> >> people
> >> > are exploiting it for greed and short term profit..  they are losing
> >> sight
> >> > of long term goals....    But that has been going on for eons,,  oddly
> >> > there is a recent example before today   and that is Hitler...   if he
> >> had
> >> > gone for the long term rather than the short term gain (he didn't
> >> listen to
> >> > his generals) the world would be totally different,  In that case I am
> >> glad
> >> > for short term gains..
>
> >> > I do think there will be a little pocket carved out on the internet that
> >> > will allow for knowledge and end the intense advertising you get when
> >> you
> >> > ask a question.. It will evolve that is for certain. Yes there is a
> >> certain
> >> > amount of dumbness brought on by this process.
> >> > Allan
>
> >> > On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 12:08 AM, rigsy03 <rigs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> > > I'm sorry, Allan- I should have checked the link first since it lands
> >> > > on The Daily Beast who seems to have eaten it for lunch. The article
> >> > > is "Tweets-Texts-Email-Posts--Is the Onslaught Making Us Crazy?" by
> >> > > Tony Dokoupil There are some reviews on other sites but I cannot link
> >> > > to the article itself. Newsweek is on the point of obvilion as a mag,
> >> > > anyway. I got my copy at the dentist's office and took it home.
> >> > > Anyway, according to the article, yes- all this tech business is
> >> > > altering the brain and emotions leading some to refer to it like
> >> > > cocaine or a psychosis.
>
> >> > > As for gadgets and progress:We know a part of one another. We would
> >> > > know more riding on a train or stagecoach or taking an ocean liner.
> >> > > One knows nothing of others in cars on the streets or highway- from
> >> > > above they look like bugs. This is closer to prisoners tapping out a
> >> > > code bewteen cells at the Bastille. :-) Candidates for office know
> >> > > better than to rely solely on the media- they must appear in the flesh
> >> > > to garner approval and votes.
>
> >> > > I am not against progress. I think it was not till the 20th C that
> >> > > England regained some of luxuries of Roman occupation- like baths and
> >> > > central heating. A power outage or water turn-off can cripple a modern
> >> > > community in no time flat. Many students just read the synopsis of a
> >> > > book on the web and can still get by. Info is instant. And think of
> >> > > the troubles it has caused finance and  stock and commodity markets. I
> >> > > suppose newspapers and periodicals will die away- like the horse- but
> >> > > rather than commercial control of the web, we may see government
> >> > > control- like in China. The horse could wander anywhere, at one time.
>
> >> > > On Jul 19, 12:19 pm, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > > > Am trying to figure out which story you want me to read  but there
> >> are
> >> > > > several very interesting ones there..  yeah I do think High tech
> >> gadgets
> >> > > > effect my brain,,  I have 3 actually 5 computers  3 main ones the
> >> other
> >> > > > ones are back up... that is if you count my phone which is in
> >> reality a
> >> > > > full blown tablet..
>
> >> > > > Yes technology does effect all of us..  if it were not for these
> >> gadgets
> >> > > we
> >> > > > would not even know each  other..  as for gadgets.. I keep one with
> >> me at
> >> > > > all times and I can go on line anytime..  and yes they have come
> >> along
> >> > > > way..  but they are part of our life today..  just like the care
> >> was at
> >> > > the
> >> > > > beginning of the 20th century.. nothing but a rich man's gadget till
> >> > > henry
> >> > > > Ford came along..
>
> >> > > > Gadgets change lives and they have been repeating that statement in
> >> one
> >> > > > form or another for eons..   I am more worried about the people
> >> trying to
> >> > > > take it over for commercial gain  and forgetting about its benefits
> >> to
> >> > > > society..
> >> > > > Allan
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> >> > > > On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 3:53 PM, rigsy03 <rigs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> > > > > Not a terribly new thought but "Newsweek" magazine has a feature
> >> on
> >> > > > > how the tech gadgets are impacting our brain. It's in the July 16,
> >> > > > > 2012 issue- cover story. A new psychosis? What do you think? Do
> >> you
> >> > > > > think it impacts adults as much as youth? (I still consult my old
> >> > > > > Britannica- yesterday I was enchanted with Lord Dufferin-Ava.)
> >> Hope
> >> > > > > the link ishttp://www.newsweek.com
>
> >> > > > --
> >> > > >  (
> >> > > >   )
> >> > > > |_D Allan
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> >> > > > Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.
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> >> > --
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> >> >   )
> >> > |_D Allan
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> >> > Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.
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> >   )
> > |_D Allan
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> > Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.
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> |_D Allan
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