Monday, April 23, 2012

Re: Mind's Eye Some Education

Malta   well it is an extremely dedicate tourist destination,, and extremely safe  it is my favorite destination..  all though there are many..  Don't put it off or you will never get there,,  Rigsy get your passport and book your flight
Allan

On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 4:17 PM, rigsy03 <rigsy03@yahoo.com> wrote:
Don't tempt me! :-) //I was thinking yesterday that there are likely
many Europeans that became permanent in the Middle East due to the
Crusades and just dissolved into the population over the centuries-
maybe those left behind after the defeats or those who were kidnapped
as slaves by the Muslims.//Anyway, the irony of middle class security
is that it is also a complicated trap.

On Apr 22, 1:30 pm, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Rigsy   Pack up your bag and head off to Malta for a couple of months or
> so,,  so good old fashion sight seeing.. they have an interesting history
> even more interesting in person..
> Allan
>
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 2:38 PM, rigsy03 <rigs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > The Maltese Cross is associated with the Knights of St. John, Allan-
> > also Hospitaliers. Yes, the eight points denote virtues. The Knights
> > Templar are associated with the island of Cyprus and their cross is
> > different. Not sure about the Teutonic Knights in current terms nor
> > the Knights of Columbus for that matter. It's a complicated subject
> > and I remember what a struggle it was to read Eco's "Foucault's
> > Pendulum" when it came out and may have given up and hauled it back to
> > the library- anyway, he claims his theory was a spoof.
>
> > On Apr 20, 8:41 am, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > No it was not a clever pun  just my poor spelling    but it was the best
> > i
> > > could do to get the idea across;;   now the Knights Templar  seems to me
> > > was a medieval group  back from the crusades ..  actually they (the
> > > original still exist) ended up in Malta and it is something that you can
> > > not join  but have to be asked..   Money helps  but it is in what you
> > have
> > > to offer as it in reality is a huge charity originally it came from the
> > > original knights templar    and it is strikingly an honorary thing and
> > you
> > > better be able to lay out the big bucks and be willing not to get
> > credit..
> > > and there is also the code  you must follow in your daily life..  the
> > > points of the Maltese cross..  interesting organization.. (yes i do know
> > > some people who are members but i do not know them personally (the royal
> > > family of the Netherlands are members))
> > > Don't be fooled by the 'want to be.'
> > > Allan
>
> > > On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 2:00 PM, rigsy03 <rigs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > And here I thought you had made a very clever pun! :-) I do remember
> > > > you explained your spelling- but it has not been a problem for me.//I
> > > > can't understand the Knights Templar becoming a template for Breivik
> > > > except for the Crusades- I suppose it depends on how you have read
> > > > their history- great wealth betrayed by the French king and Pope.//I
> > > > have seen a good deal of hypocrisy in the Liberals between their
> > > > personal and public positions so I am wary, perhaps. I think that
> > > > humans are still nomadic- chasing moolah instead of the moo's of their
> > > > herds- but this is intensified by wars, economic imbalances and
> > > > distribution of power/freedom.
>
> > > > On Apr 19, 9:03 am, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > You are right Rigsy  it is medieval  just could not find it in the
> > spell
> > > > > checker  (not very bright huh) as for Breivik I think he is creating
> > > > > a fantasy..  though I know of that ate very much against the
> > > > > muslim influnce   they are not secret organizations,  but here in the
> > > > > Netherlands a political party..  and they are very vocal.. and the
> > > > feelings
> > > > > are quite wide spread..
>
> > > > > I can not help but think that Breivik  is trying to be another Hitler
> > > > > instead of the Jews being the focal point it is Muslims he is trying
> > to
> > > > > work up the anti - what ever sentiment to stir up trouble and get
> > people
> > > > to
> > > > > follow him blindly..   but I do not think he as as bright  as he see
> > > > > himself as.
> > > > > Allan
>
> > > > > On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 3:17 PM, rigsy03 <rigs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > > It was laws that we really owe to Babylon and the eastern trade
> > routes
> > > > > > plus the East was able to save knowledge resources during the Dark
> > > > > > Ages after the barbarian invasions. Their conquest was swift and
> > > > > > brutal of the West though defeated and pushed back and it's
> > pay-back
> > > > > > for that and the Crusades. BenLadin=the new Saladin?
>
> > > > > > You say mid-evil and I say Medieval...? The present international
> > > > > > banking system is beholden to the Knights Templar system. I heard
> > KT
> > > > > > mentioned re Anders Breivik just yesterday but presume it has to do
> > > > > > with his anti-Islam "mission".
>
> > > > > > Our alphabet also evolved from the East- math and language being a
> > > > > > necessity of trade.
>
> > > > > > On Apr 17, 1:50 am, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > I watched a program  on the mid evil mind and how they view
> > things..
> > > >  one
> > > > > > > of the things that was looked at education and part of it
> > involved
> > > > islam
> > > > > > ,,
> > > > > > >  I always knew that number system was arabic in origin what i
> > found
> > > > > > > interesting is their interest in the ancient philosophers and
> > > > mathematics
> > > > > > > as well as other sciences,, but they did not give much detail on
> > that
> > > > > > end..
>
> > > > > > > My question is what happened to islam that it stopped its
> > interest
> > > > > > science
> > > > > > > and mathematics is one of the truly pure sciences it seems all
> > that
> > > > islam
> > > > > > > It seems there is no interest in harmony and co-existence is
> > > > interested
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > > is murder and forcing people to live their set of rules which
> > > > > > > is contrary to western law.
> > > > > > > Allan
>
> > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 1:28 PM, rigsy03 <rigs...@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > > The education system has become a means of sorting out the
> > > > population
> > > > > > > > and not necessarily a government scam anymore than one that
> > eases
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > selections of politics, business, society and so on. It was
> > > > probably
> > > > > > > > tidier in the Middle Ages with an overall system of belief and
> > > > > > > > practice.
>
> > > > > > > > On Apr 15, 10:36 pm, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > I'm struck that universal education has failed us.  I'd go
> > for
> > > > > > > > > deschooling and have education after 14 voluntary and much
> > more
> > > > > > > > > related to practice (not necessarily work).  Current
> > university
> > > > > > > > > programmes should be available on television and available
> > free
> > > > with
> > > > > > > > > Internet supervision from university hubs where academics
> > work
> > > > in the
> > > > > > > > > community and social and sports events are also civic rather
> > than
> > > > > > > > > separated as now.  Education is currently a government scam
> > and
> > > > an
> > > > > > > > > export scam.
>
> > > > > > > > > On Apr 15, 3:23 pm, James Lynch <ashkas...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > I oscillate between visionary and lunatic fringe. If one
> > liners
> > > > > > paid
> > > > > > > > > > the bills I'd be a millionaire, the exercise comes in the
> > > > > > unpacking so
> > > > > > > > > > a wee bit of sarcasm may be in order. Thanks Vam  ;-)
>
> > > > > > > > > > On 4/15/12, Vam <atewari2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Facebook has "Like", Twitter would allow "Retweet", and I
> > > > could
> > > > > > > > re-pin
> > > > > > > > > > > on Pinterest ...
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Let's say, I am doing all three now !
>
> > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 15, 8:57 am, James Lynch <ashkas...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >> It is helpful to have an idea of process and structure
> > and
> > > > it
> > > > > > seems
> > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > >> me you are both talking about a qualitative/individual
> > > > aspect to
> > > > > > > > > > >> education. This is an important focus, I think all else
> > > > follows
> > > > > > from
> > > > > > > > > > >> the challenges to success to the contributions to
> > society-
> > > > every
> > > > > > > > last
> > > > > > > > > > >> ounce of potential is in the individual. All else is
> > > > logistics
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > >> scale, systematization, and mechanization.
>
> > > > > > > > > > >> On 4/14/12, Vam <atewari2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > >> > Good. But my response has nothing to do eastern or
> > western
> > > > > > > > anything.
>
> > > > > > > > > > >> > It's me. I regard any education as nothing if not
> > leading
> > > > to
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > >> > evolution of something within me which gives a me
> > > > perspective
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > world
> > > > > > > > > > >> > and life, a values system I can touch to know what the
> > > > thing
> > > > > > or
> > > > > > > > matter
> > > > > > > > > > >> > before me means, to me.
>
> > > > > > > > > > >> > That should leave all the bubbles with you. And the
> > > > yeast...
>
> > > > > > > > > > >> > On Apr 14, 8:49 pm, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> It looks you took Ash's mixing pot image too literal,
> > > > Vam.
> > > > > > You
> > > > > > > > don't
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> bring
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> order into a mixing pot by sequencing bubble terms -
> > add
> > > > some
> > > > > > > > yeast if
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> you
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> want to create bubbles and get your new order!
>
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> If wisdom is what you wish to attain, you will not be
> > > > able to
> > > > > > > > achieve
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> your
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> goal without having taken good care of your critical
> > eye,
> > > > > > for it
> > > > > > > > is the
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> root that prevents you from being blinded.
>
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> Education does not deliver knowledge or facts -
> > Google
> > > > or my
> > > > > > > > newspaper
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> does
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> that. In a wider sense they also educate me, but
> > more in
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > sense of I
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> am
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> using their services with the intention to get
> > access to
> > > > > > > > information
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> and
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> not in the sense that I wish to get formed in their
> > > > image.
>
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> I see a big difference in eastern and western
> > > > understanding
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > what
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> education means.
>
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> On Sat, Apr
>
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